We were thrilled to haver our friend, Dr. Sheri Kling with us today. She's an interdisciplinary scholar who explores how human beings move from fragmentation toward belonging through soul formation, relational worldviews, and communities of spiritual practice. Integrating Jungian depth psychology, relational theology, neuroscience, and empirical research on meaning and human flourishing. Her latest book is here. Subscribe to her Substack here.

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We were thrilled to have Kristin Du Mez on the show to talk about her new book, Live Laugh Love: The Secret History of White Christian Women and the World They Made (September 2026). This book and her most recent — Jesus and John Wayne — are required reading for anyone trying wrap their minds around culture, politics, and the good ol’ USofA.

Kristin is a New York Times bestselling author and Professor of History at Calvin University. She is a Senior Democracy Fellow with the Public Religion Research Institute. Her research focuses on the intersection of gender, religion, and politics. She has written for The New York Times, The Washington Post, NBC News, Religion News Service, and Christianity Today, and has been interviewed on NPR, CBS, and the BBC, among other outlets. Her most recent book was Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation (2020).

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We loved being with Halley Kim today. You should find her on substack and all the socials at maybegodisamidwife. This conversation is full of helpful ideas and concepts, not the least of which is midwifery. Which I (Jonathan) learned how to pronounce on this episode. In real time! Thanks everyone.

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How great is the author and bible scholar, Kat Armas? It was so great to connect with her about resisting the narrative (story) of the system, the way it metastisizes into ideology, decolonization, and all sorts of things related to her book Liturgies for Resisting Empire: Seeking Community, Belonging, and Peace in a Dehumanizing World (Daily Hope and Strength to Resist the Rise of Tyranny)

And find her with thousands of followers on her substack page here or IG here.

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So much fun to interact with our friend, Tracy Tucker around death, grief, chaplaincy, evolution, open and relational theology, and love. I hope you subscribe to his Substack and pick up his book, Can We Talk about Death?

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A conversation with the venerable Lisa Sharon Harper about her book "Fortune: How Race Broke my Family and the World and How to Repair it All" along with other fun topics like authoritarianism, civil rights, family heritage, story and identity. A prolific speaker, writer and activist, Ms. Harper is the founder and president of FreedomRoad.us, a consulting group dedicated to shrinking the narrative gap in our nation by designing forums and experiences that bring common understanding, common commitment and common action. We we were honored to have her on the Off Canon podcast.

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Ben Cremer lives at the intersection of intelligence, biblical literacy, justice, and humility in a very unique way. It’s very difficult to not like him (or his work). I hope you’ll find him at his substack page and share this one with a friend. Peace everyone.

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Fantastic conversation with the Rev. Dr. Michael Rose about love, Teilhard de Chardin, open and relational theology, love, the invitation of the spirit at the level of the molecule and atom, and his new book Made by Love, For Love: Reimagining God, Power, and Faith in Light of Relentless Love.

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