This is a special. No hills, no topics, no format. Jamie making Richard sit through WrestleMania as part of a cultural exchange nobody asked for but everyone needed. Richard went in sceptical. Richard came out changed. The deal was WrestleMania for Eurovision, so consider this fair warning, Richard's revenge is coming, and it involves sequins.

Jamie dies on the hill that the Star Wars prequels deserve more credit than they get. Richard disagrees. Then they tackle the bigger question, why does every piece of culture now need to be part of something larger, and when did standalone become a dirty word?

Richard did his Bee Gees homework and it's only made him worse. Jamie went to see Prima Facie. Then: are audiobooks actually reading? Richard says no. After that, long form vs short form gaming, the backlog problem, and what abandoning a save file says about you as a dad. Got a hill? We want it hello@nobodycarespodcast.co.uk or @ncwytpodcast on Instagram.

Richard is using Arts Council funding to experiment with creative recording sessions with musicians, starting with a harp player, and gets into the details of microphone placement and what he's trying to achieve. Jamie has been watching Pluribus on Apple TV and makes it his mission to get Richard on board. In "I Will Die on This Hill," Jamie argues that the moral panic around children's screen time is performative nonsense and what actually matters is what they're watching, then almost immediately admits he's not sure he fully believes his own argument. That leads into a proper conversation about Stranger Things finally ending, whether it sticks the landing, and the broader question of why so many beloved shows fall apart at the finish line. Fan expectations, showrunner pressure, and whether any ending can ever actually satisfy anyone.

Jamie went to see Radiohead and has thoughts, mostly about the fact they didn't play Creep and whether that's artistic integrity or just being awkward. Richard spent New Year sober and has strong opinions about Jools Holland's Hootenanny. There's a trip to the snooker, a heated "I Will Die on This Hill" where Richard argues the Beatles are massively overrated, and a conversation about support bands, including Jamie's borderline obsessive appreciation for Brigette Calls Me Baby, who he discovered supporting Morrissey. The lads also get into influencer culture creeping into music and acting, and Richard's Nerd Den this week involves spending £1 on a device that is technically both a speaker and a phone. Somehow this takes longer to explain than it should.

Jamie and Richard introduce themselves, explain why they're doing this, and immediately start arguing. In their first ever "I Will Die on This Hill" segment, Jamie makes the case that professional wrestling deserves to be taken seriously as entertainment, whilst Richard remains unconvinced. Richard then defends Five Guys milkshakes as the gold standard of fast food shakes, but argues the price makes them impossible to justify. That descends into a broader conversation about whether quality is ever actually worth the premium. It's the first episode. Nobody asked for it. Here it is anyway.

Two mates talk gigs, music, and culture every fortnight.

A failed musician turned project manager and a failed teacher turned studio producer have started a podcast. Every fortnight, Jamie and Richard will be talking gigs, music, films, and middle-aged nonsense. First three episodes drop on 19th March 2025.

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