I had the incredible opportunity to partner with Shiseido for a live conversation with everyone’s favorite triple threat, Kelly Rowland and Face Architect Joomee Song. During Shiseido’s inaugural Benefiance retreat, we talked about everything: beauty, business, travel, and motherhood. We had such a great time talking about our respective visits to Japan, our approaches to aging, and of course our first impressions of the Benefiance eye cream. We even got some great beauty tips from the live audience!

Tune in as we discuss:

• How we use our nighttime skincare routines to practice self-care
• What it’s like aging in the public eye
• How our under-eye area changes as we age
• Generational examples of beauty and self-care
• What every good eye cream must have

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You may not know her name, but you've seen Zerina Akers' work. The Emmy Award-winning costume designer and celebrity stylist is best known for her work on Beyoncé's Black Is King. In this conversation, Zerina takes us back to her roots. She remembers growing up between her aunt's strict professionalism and her Panamanian grandmother's early beauty lessons. She shares what interning in the fashion closet taught her about hierarchy, hustle, and never looking idle. She also gives an honest breakdown of how stylists get paid. Brand deals, the emotional labor, and the weeks of unpaid prep behind a single red carpet look may surprise you.

Zerina is also candid about her own style evolution at 40, including a closet that suddenly feels outdated, a changing body, and the search for a silhouette that feels powerful. She shares her wardrobe organizing system, her ruthless twice-a-year purge, and why she believes in investing in designer pieces with resale value over fast fashion. She also gets personal about her wellness routine, her skincare staples, her ancestral prayer practice, and how she protects her energy.

(2:52) The red dress that started it all

(4:13) Beauty lessons from her aunt and Panamanian grandmother

(7:09) Self care when your job is serving others

(8:50) Interning in the W Magazine fashion closet

(14:12) How a celebrity stylist organizes her closet

(17:43) June Ambrose, Missy Elliott and Megan Thee Stallion's "Hiss"

(21:09) Styling Chaka Khan

(22:40) LA style vs New York style

(26:07) How to find your signature style

(28:37) Closet purge and buying designer to resell

(35:02) Tailoring and the details that elevate a look

(38:55) Style at 40 and an outdated closet

(43:38) Behind the looks of Beyoncé's Black Is King

(48:36) Why music videos outlast the red carpet

(51:37) How celebrity stylists get paid

(56:53) The emotional labor of styling

(1:01:03) Wellness, fitness and meal prep

(1:05:27) Zerina's skincare routine

(1:11:28) Prayer, protecting your energy and "I never say no"

(1:15:04) When Zerina feels most beautiful

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Blakely Thornton is an original. A self-described Pop Culture Anthropologist and Out 100 Honoree, Blakely has built a digital career that uniquely spans comedy, entertainment, and style. On social media, fans flock to him for his honest, no-holds-barred commentary on their favorite topics. Others tune into Yestergays to hear him and his podcast co-host critique fashion and celebrity culture with his signature wit. Celebrities are smitten with him, often tickled by their engagements at red carpet events like the Met Gala and ultra-exclusive gyms. This very public, creative life wasn't what Blakely imagined for himself as an athletic kid growing up in Dallas, Texas. Blakely was a closeted football player at UPenn, majoring in finance and hoping to follow in his parents' footsteps into a respectable, stable career. Headed towards a traditionally corporate career, Blakely worked at Ralph Lauren and pursued the corporate finance life until he didn’t.

Eventually, Blakely decided that he wouldn’t spend another twenty years as anything other than his full self, and it has paid off. Instead of trying to find ways to inject creativity into a 9-5, Blakely leverages his taste and honesty into a living. During our conversation, we cover everything pop culture, from GLP1s to what makes an It Girl to how much attention Zendaya is actually generating for films and fashion houses. We cover the other side of being very popular online, like the mean comments on Reddit, being seen only as a product, and being expected to carry the emotional weight of a fanbase. Blakely is open about the mental and emotional safeguards he needs to manage the opinions of hundreds of thousands of fans, and why he turns to working out to maintain his peace of mind. We also chat about misogynistic beauty standards, how he makes friends with so many celebrities, and why Heated Rivalry was so impactful.

Tune in as we discuss:

(0:00) Welcome Blakely

(3:30) The Met Gala Experience

(5:45) Growing Up in Dallas

(7:40) The Trauma of Predominantly White Prep Schools

(16:25) Coming Out As An Adult

(17:15) Heated Rivalry’s Impact

(21:30) America’s Obsession With Beauty Standards

(32:55) Gay Beauty Standards

(43:15) What Makes Someone an It Girl or It Boy

(51:00) The Beauty of Tactile References

(53:20) Pop Culture Lightning Round

(1:02:50) When He Feels The Most Beautiful

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