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Media and the Machine

Media and the Machine

De : Rob Kelly
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 AI is the biggest technology shift of our lifetime. This show is about how to profit from it together. Each week I talk with the founders and CEOs closest to AI and Content, the ones figuring this out in real time. I’m also building an AI content business myself and share the lessons I learn along the way. WHAT WE COVER THE TITANS: How companies like OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta, and xAI are moving, and why their decisions matter. THE INCUMBENTS: How content giants like Disney, News Corp, Universal Music Group, and Reddit are responding to AI, and what it means for creators and publishers. THE PLAYBOOK: Real lessons on AI business models, content strategy, IP licensing, distribution, and getting paid. ABOUT YOUR HOST: Rob Kelly has interviewed Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, helped pioneer early web content licensing, and built multiple companies with more than $100 million in total sales. His work has appeared on CNBC, CNN, TIME, and Entrepreneur. Beyond business, every episode explores what AI means for jobs, creativity, families, and the next generation. If you want clear thinking based on real experience in AI and media, Media and the Machine is your guide Thanks! -Rob© Media and the Machine Economie
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    • The CEO Quietly Licensing 2M+ Hours of Content to AI Giants (Clint Stinchcomb, CEO of Publicly Traded CuriosityStream Inc.)

      The CEO Quietly Licensing 2M+ Hours of Content to AI Giants (Clint Stinchcomb, CEO of Publicly Traded CuriosityStream Inc.)
      Jan 30 2026

      My guest is Clint Stinchcomb, CEO of CuriosityStream.


      Two years ago, CuriosityStream was known as “the Netflix of Documentaries.” Today, it is on track to earn more money from AI content licensing than from subscriptions.


      Clint and I talk about how AI licensing really works for media companies.

      We use CuriosityStream as a real example, not a theory.

      We focus on deals, content, and money.


      High-signal takeaways:
      • How he built 2M+ hours of content (video and beyond) to license to AI Giants
      • The “filet” of AI training content, and why wildlife and sports win
      • ~$20M AI licensing run rate (my estimate) — the first 9 deals with AI companies, and why that number could soon double or triple
      • What a typical AI video licensing contract looks like
      • How many hours of content AI companies test before scaling
      • Why video, audio, ebooks, and even software code are in play
      • Four lessons Clint wanted to learn before doing his first AI deal
      • His work with John Hendricks, founder of Discovery and CuriosityStream


      Family too — We also talk about the impact of AI on his family. Clint shares how he thinks about using AI to capture and preserve his mom’s memories.


      If you run a media business, work in AI, invest, or create content, this episode shows how these deals work in the real world.
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      52 min
    • Media and the Machine – Trailer

      Media and the Machine – Trailer
      Jan 23 2026

      I’m Rob Kelly, and this is Media and the Machine, a show about the biggest technology shift of our lifetime and how to profit from it.


      Each week I talk with founders and CEOs closest to AI and Content, the people figuring this out in real time. I’m also building an AI content business myself and sharing what I learn along the way.


      I'm a 3-time founder and CEO and earlier in my career interviewed such tech leaders as Steve Jobs and Bill Gates.

      Please follow the show to get new episodes when they launch.

      Thx! -Rob
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