This week, the team sits down with Dylan Ander, founder of Heatmap and author of Billion Dollar Websites, to break down how modern ecommerce funnels are evolving and why many legacy playbooks are starting to crack. The conversation opens with Dylan’s perspective on AI, trust, and synthetic content, and why brands may be heading back toward more human-led, harder-to-fake creative as AI becomes table stakes.

From there, they unpack why traditional DR funnels are losing effectiveness, how homepage-style and “Trojan horse” landing pages are reshaping conversion behavior, and what operators need to rethink about how users actually move through sites today. Dylan shares lessons from Billion Dollar Websites, including how ecommerce brands can borrow from info funnels to monetize beyond products and increase LTV.

The episode closes with a practical look at research and CRO systems - how to structure insights, prioritize tests, and turn qualitative signals into a clear experimentation roadmap - grounding the conversation in how operators can build strategies that reflect real buyer behavior as the landscape continues to shift.

Check out the previous episode with Dylan: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3iwer8FNwuwzDDnAV5X7JV?si=3NJKr9aMQLun1qWQvegSYw

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Chapters:

00:03:47 - AI Hot Takes

00:24:49 - Info Funnels & Monetizing the Customer Journey

00:39:13 - Research & The Billion Dollar Data Funnel

00:55:35 - Deepening Customer Feedback Analysis

01:10:40 - Testing Strategy & Evolutionary Redesign

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This week, the hosts return for their annual predictions episode, starting by revisiting their 2025 forecasts and holding themselves accountable for what hit, what missed, and what changed faster than expected. From there, they transition into their 2026 predictions for DTC and eCommerce marketing, grounding each call in real performance data, platform behavior, and operator-level experience.

The conversation centers on paid media and channel mix, with deep discussion on Meta’s evolving ability to drive new customer growth, AppLovin’s continued rise, renewed performance on X, and how brands should think about wallet share, prospecting vs. retargeting, and incrementality across channels. They also unpack how creative strategy and signal engineering are becoming more critical as platforms automate bidding and optimization.

As the episode progresses, the discussion broadens into longer-term growth levers, including performance-driven organic social, brand awareness measurement, dynamic pricing and pre-orders, affiliate and social commerce strategies, and the growing need to connect marketing decisions with inventory, finance, and long-term brand value.

A core takeaway from the episode is how operators can move beyond tactics and apply better measurement, accountability, and systems thinking heading into 2026.

Watch last year's predictions episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3CzkMlAHp7a2elLsIWO9qJ?si=wqbUJI_3QWqFLlOb5vN8aw

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:04:33 - Reviewing 2025 Predictions

00:18:58 - Brand Tracking and Awareness

00:38:41 - AppLovin and Channel Predictions

00:57:14 - Database Design and Data Fragmentation

01:16:46 - AI Infrastructure and Documentation

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This week, we’re joined by Liz Anthony, Chief of Staff at Halfdays, the fast-growing women’s outdoor apparel brand redefining performance skiwear. Liz breaks down how Halfdays balances brand and performance marketing to scale a highly seasonal DTC business, including the role of founder-led content, creative diversity, and standout collaborations like HOKA in driving Q4 momentum.

From there, the group digs into how the Chief of Staff role acts as a force multiplier across marketing, product, and strategy - pulling from Liz’s consulting background to explore how strong operators create leverage in fast-moving brands.

We wrap with a collaborative discussion on KPI ownership, dashboards, and forecasting, covering how teams use simple tools like Google Sheets to track leading indicators, align cross-functional teams, and connect marketing execution to real business outcomes.

If you’re scaling a seasonal brand, building cross-functional clarity, or trying to connect brand moments to measurable growth, this episode is packed with practical insight.

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Find out more about the Halfdays brand in another MOperators Episode:

How Halfdays Turned Community into a Growth Engine - with CEO Ariana Ferwerda

Chapters:

00:00:00 – Introducing Liz and Halfdays’ Brand Story

00:03:10 – Finding Product-Market Fit in Women’s Ski Wear

00:08:00 – Expanding Beyond Ski: Year-Round and Omnichannel Growth

00:13:30 – Defining “Her”: Core Customer, Persona, and Positioning

00:19:00 – Chief of Staff Role: KPIs, Strategy, and Cross-Functional Glue

00:24:10 – Liz’s Operator Background and Translating Consulting Skills to DTC

00:30:20 – Building the Team, Ownership Culture, and Management Style

00:36:20 – Q4 and Black Friday: Hoka Collab, List Growth, and Demand

00:44:30 – Content Engine, Community, and Always-On Brand Marketing

00:52:30 – Channel Mix, Out-of-Home Bets, and Retargeting Strategy

01:01:00 – 2026 Roadmap: New Franchises, Launch “Moments,” and Playbooks

01:11:30 – Data Stack, KPIs, and Using Analytics to Drive Decisions

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Richpanel.⁠⁠⁠

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