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SECURITY CONVERSATIONS: Black Lotus Labs researcher Michael Horka joins the show to discuss Silent Train, a Volt Typhoon framework that spins up four-to-six-hop chains of hijacked SOHO routers in about two minutes and wipes every hop when the day's session ends.

We discuss how ORB networks differ from botnets, why Silent Train took over after the FBI's KV-botnet takedown, the zero-days hitting control plane software from Versa, N-able and VeloCloud, and the NetFlow and logging moves defenders can make right now.

TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intros
0:29 What is an ORB network?
2:34 Silent Train, an operational framework for Volt Typhoon
3:30 Why call it Silent Train?
4:12 Chains that exist for a few hours
6:47 The hijacked routers in the chain
8:16 Burning zero-days on a single hop
9:48 Attribution and the KV-botnet successor
11:02 Crown jewels and NetFlow visibility
14:53 Why network monitoring gets skipped
17:23 Victims in Hawaii, California and Texas
19:23 Four confirmed zero-days, all patched
20:47 Control plane software as the target
26:00 No-brainer defenses: logs and internet exposure
29:41 Threat hunting, agentic AI and where ORBs go next