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Live in the Lab Schools

Live in the Lab Schools

De : Andy Goveia & Ben Webb
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A production of the University Laboratory Schools at Illinois State University. Co-hosts Andy Goveia and Ben Webb explain, explore, and share their expertise as teachers at one of the oldest, most vibrant Laboratory Schools in the nation.


Join us and our special guests to find out more about the innovation and leadership in education at our living laboratories.

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    • Ep #8 - Why Lab Schools Matter and How They Should Lead Systems Change with Dean Bryan Zugelder
      Jan 29 2026

      BONUS EPISODE

      We sit down with Dr. Brian Zugelder, Dean of the College of Education at Illinois State University, to unpack a nontraditional journey that now fuels a bold vision for the university’s lab schools. We dig into the educator continuum—recruitment, preparation, induction, leadership, and retention—and why keeping great people in the profession requires real pathways and support. From clinical practice to statewide partnerships, he explains how ISU can model promising practices and help shape policy rather than wait for mandates.

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      40 min
    • Ep #7 - Pioneers with Purpose: UHigh Admin on Leadership
      Jan 29 2026

      What happens when a high school runs inside a major university—and doesn’t even own many of its athletic facilities? We invited U‑High’s principal Andrea Markert, assistant principal Brian Rohman, and athletic and activities director Steve Evans to share how they lead a K–12 lab school that answers to ISU policies while serving students, families, teachers, and pre‑service educators.

      If you care about how schools innovate under real constraints, this conversation will give you a front-row seat to the tradeoffs, the wins, and the big vision. Subscribe, share with a colleague, and leave a review with your answer to this question: if resources were no object, what would you build first for students?

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      47 min
    • Ep #6 - Walking with Wildcats: The Admin Team at Thomas Metcalf School
      Jan 15 2026

      What happens when a small K–8 school serves kids, teachers, and a university all at once? We invited Metcalf’s principal, assistant principal, and dean to pull back the curtain on lab school life: the fast pivots, the extra hats, and the reason everyone still calls it home.


      We talk about the power of a zone-defense leadership model where roles overlap on purpose and coverage never breaks. That structure fuels an open-door culture: tough conversations stay collaborative, visibility stays high, and support reaches the right person fast.

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      47 min
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