🎙 Cowboy Conversations — Episode 5: Learning Together — Becoming a Distinguished School

Guest Host: VP Vince Warsaw

Guests: Claudia Whited (Counselor), Trang Nguyen (Teacher/Instructional Coach), Zeth Verdon (Student)

🌟 Episode Summary

In this special episode, VP Warsaw leads a thoughtful conversation about what learning really means at Cajon High School. Counselor Claudia Whited, instructional coach Trang Nguyen, and student leader Zeth Verdon share honest reflections on curiosity, risk-taking, grades, and the kind of culture that helps students grow.

Claudia challenges traditional ideas about achievement, noting:

“Some classes, you might have a C and you did the most learning.”

Trang speaks to the emotional side of learning:

“The most learning happens when you take those risks and you’re okay with making mistakes.”

Zeth brings the student perspective to life:

“I’m always talking about how math can improve my triple jump… and that helps me learn the math.”

Warsaw ties it all together with a powerful message:

“Learning doesn’t just require learning content, but learning each other.”

This episode centers on one truth: A Distinguished School is built when everyone—students, staff, and families—learns together.

🕒 Episode Breakdown

Times to be updated after editing.

• Welcome — Curiosity, learning culture, connection
• Interview — Grades vs. learning, curiosity, IB/CP pathways, real-world relevance, risk-taking, relationships
• Equity & Innovation Minute — Belonging → courage → learning
• Closing — Hope, unity, and Cajon’s path to becoming a Distinguished School

💬 Memorable Quotes

“If you’re curious about something, you’re going to want to learn about it.” — Claudia “Sometimes grades hinder learning.” — Trang “Math helps my triple jump — and triple jump helps my math.” — Zeth “When we focus on learning together, the sky is the limit.” — VP Warsaw

🗝️ Takeaways

• Curiosity drives deep learning
• Grades don’t always reflect mastery
• Risk-taking builds growth
• Relationships make learning safe
• Real-world connections motivate students
• Distinguished Schools grow through collective learning

🔑 Call to Action

• Students: Focus on curiosity over perfection — real learning is messy.
• Teachers: Build relationships that make risk-taking safe.
• Families: Celebrate learning, not just grades.
• Community: Support Cajon’s journey toward becoming a Distinguished School.

🏫 About the Show

Cowboy Conversations highlights the people, stories, and learning that make Cajon High School extraordinary — where every student belongs, every adult models growth, and learning happens together. Hosted by Dr. Chris Jackson and the Cowboy Leadership Team.

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