I’m joined by Phillip from Wildernesses, a band blending post-rock, folk, shoegaze, alt rock and dreamo.

We start with their song “Summertime, 1917” from their newly released album Growth: a story of love, loss, and memory told through a frame narrative that feels both distant and deeply personal. Phil shares how the idea first came to him over 10 years ago, and why it took so long to become what it is today.

We also talk about “Blood Bank” by Bon Iver, and how a simple, almost mundane image can say everything about closeness without ever stating it directly.

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In this episode, I’m joined by Jessie Powell, vocalist of Dream State, and we go through her journey as an artist: from singing in choirs as a kid to fronting bands, taking a break from music, and finding her way back to it.

We talk about pressure, burnout, feeling like you’re “too late”, and how scary it can be to step into something new, especially when people are watching and comparing. Jessie shares what it felt like to join an already established band, deal with doubt (her own and other people’s), and slowly grow into her place.

There’s also a lot about growth, looking back at your younger self, and realizing that maybe everything made sense in the end.

A soft but honest conversation about music, identity, and learning to trust yourself a bit more.

Catch Dream State on their EU/UK tour with Solence.

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In this episode, I sit down with Hansol from Shoreline just days before the release of their new album Is This the Low Point or the Moment After? (out now)

We start with their song Good Times and talk about what it really feels like to be in a band for 10 years: the highs, the numbness, and the strange moments where something you love starts to feel distant. From playing shows on autopilot to questioning your place in it all, this conversation goes deep into the reality behind the music.

We also dive into the meaning behind their song Synchronize, exploring themes of emotional burnout, drifting friendships, and learning to accept change.

Is This The Low Point Or The Moment After? by Shoreline is out now, and I absolutely recommend you to listen to it.

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