Vanessa Bennett is a depth psychologist, therapist, and author of The Motherhood Myth.

In this conversation, Brett and Vanessa go all the way back. Vanessa grew up as a parentified child in a single-parent home — the overachiever who learned early that love was something you earned through achievement, not something freely given.

At 25, a close friend told her she always seemed angry. That one honest observation cracked her open. It sent her into therapy, yoga, Al-Anon, and eventually across the country — alone, at 30 — to leave her career in New York advertising, end a long-term relationship, and start over completely. Her work now sits at the intersection of depth psychology, spirituality, and the real, unfiltered experience of being human. And when she became a mother, two weeks before COVID lockdown, the myths she'd spent years studying became impossible to ignore. This is a conversation about what actually heals us. And what gets in the way.

For years, The Gravity Podcast created space for meaningful conversations around business, creativity, and personal growth.

But over the past year, something shifted.

In this episode, Brett shares why he realized he was playing the external game — building, scaling, optimizing — and why he now wants to play a bigger game: the game of consciousness.

After attending Abundance 360 and hearing Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Richard Branson present their visions for space travel, Brett entered a deep therapeutic and spiritual process that led to a powerful realization: while we are investing extraordinary energy into exploring outer space, most of us have barely explored the vastness inside ourselves.

INNERSPACE is born from that insight.

This podcast will trace the psychological and emotional origin stories of builders, creators, leaders, and seekers — starting with childhood and following the invisible threads forward.

Less performance.

More presence.

More honesty about the human experience.

The first guest episode drops Thursday, 2/19.

Welcome to INNERSPACE.

In this very special 200th episode, host Brett Kaufman takes a heartfelt pause to reflect on the journey of the Gravity Podcast. What started as a simple idea for recording meaningful coffee conversations has turned into a five-year archive of deep, vulnerable, and inspiring stories. With no roadmap in hand, the podcast became a space to explore the human experience and build a conscious community around authenticity and connection.

To celebrate the milestone, Brett revisits standout moments from some of his most impactful guests: people who have shaped the Gravity conversation and helped listeners feel a little more seen in their own lives.

Today on Gravity:

• Chet Scott reminds us why real, connected community is essential to human survival and resilience.
• Jenny Britton of Jeni’s Ice Cream shares a deeply personal turning point and how her body, not her brain, guided her back to alignment.
• John Kim (The Angry Therapist) opens up about authenticity, healing, and the importance of embodied experiences.
• James Clear, bestselling author of Atomic Habits, talks about designing your life as a creative act—and how living intentionally is itself a form of art.
• Bob Roth, CEO of the David Lynch Foundation, reflects on his decades-long journey with Transcendental Meditation and making the practice accessible without the fluff.
• Lewis Howes shares his path through trauma and adversity, and how he transformed pain into purpose.
• Maggie Smith, poet and bestselling author, gets real about heartbreak, motherhood, and the creative process of turning personal pain into art that heals others.

LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PODCAST:

• The Gravity Podcast - Available on Apple and Spotify

LEARN MORE ABOUT GRAVITY:

• The Gravity Project
• Gravity on Instagram

LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HOST:

• Brett Kaufman
• Brett Kaufman on Instagram