If you were put in charge of the world, what's the first thing you would do? Maybe you want to build a ladder to the moon? Or combat loneliness by giving everybody a pet rock? Practicality is no barrier as we envisage the changes needed to build our utopia. Joins us each week as we chat to our guests and question the sanity of their sweeping innovations and decide whose is worth implementing.

Welcome to Impractical Utopias, the podcast where we imagine better!

Join Erik and Sea as we chat to our guest this week, Grace King , about starting a subterranean offshoot civilization. Remember never be seen, never be exposed is the mantra!

If you want to find out more about Grace King , you can find her @Gracekingwriting on Instagram, or on her blog.

She has published two poetry books: Hot Headed Snakes and No Idols in the Sky, and is currently working on a new poetry book called Vibrant Thorns, through the perspectives of Eve, Lilith, and Persephone.

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