What if UFO disclosure doesn’t come from the government at all?

In Episode 12 of the Crew One Podcast, Adam Barone sits down with psychotherapist, ordained minister, retreat facilitator, and UFO/NHI experiencer Dr. Melanie Barton for one of the show’s most provocative conversations yet.

Barton recounts the near-death experience she says changed everything — including an encounter with the son she had miscarried, whom she says appeared at the age he would have been if he had lived. From there, she describes a transformation that took her from conventional ministry and psychotherapy into a world of anomalous experiences, contact reports, consciousness, and alleged communication with non-human intelligence.

Then the conversation goes much further.

Barton explains why she believes “not all aliens are positive,” why she thinks some forces may be influencing the disclosure process, and why the year 2027 keeps surfacing in conversations about open contact. She also describes her claimed interactions with the “Council of Eight,” including a seven-foot being she says appeared in her bedroom and called her “daughter.”

Adam presses her on the harder questions: How do you distinguish genuine contact from trauma, dreams, dissociation, psychosis, or suggestion? Has she ever received information she later doubted? What counts as evidence? And what happens when a therapist takes extraordinary experiences seriously without automatically accepting every interpretation?

They also dive into CE5 and sky watching, channeling, “screen memories,” hypnosis, Reiki, AI, psychedelics, organized religion, ontological shock, the New Paradigm Institute, and Barton’s belief that a planned “grand disclosure” was once abandoned in favor of something much slower: contact with individuals.

And finally, the big question:

What does she think could happen in 2027?

Whether you’re a believer, skeptic, experiencer, or simply curious, this episode goes straight into the territory where psychology, spirituality, UFOs, religion, and the nature of reality collide.