In this encore conversation, Stan Parker sits down with Jeff Keiser, Executive Director of Camp Sonshine, for a thoughtful and deeply honest discussion about leadership, calling, and following Jesus in real time. Jeff reflects on his leadership journey—from early formative experiences to launching and leading a growing camp ministry—and invites listeners into the heart-level realities that shape how leaders think, decide, and serve. Stan and Jeff unpack a practical “leadership equation,” exploring how dissatisfaction can spark vision, how influence must be stewarded with integrity, and why sacrifice is an unavoidable part of faithful leadership.

Connect with Jeff as he shares candid stories about risk, criticism, spiritual opposition, and the moments of brokenness that taught him dependence on God rather than self-effort. Gain wisdom as a leader feeling the weight of responsibility, the loneliness of decision-making, or the tension between faith and fear—and be reminded that spiritual leadership is less about control and more about surrender.

In this episode of How He’s Building This, host Stan Parker sits down with Bryan Clark as he reflects on more than four decades of ministry and his upcoming retirement after 33 years as senior pastor of Lincoln Berean Church. Bryan shares the story of his calling—from seminary in California to a small, divided church in Broken Bow, Nebraska, and eventually to leading a large, multi-staff organization. Along the way, he unpacks how those early years shaped his understanding of humility, servant leadership, and the inseparable connection between preaching, pastoring, and leading. Bryan also explains why this season feels like the right time to step away—choosing to leave while he can still serve well, make space for the next generation, and allow new leaders to flourish without his shadow.

Bryan speaks candidly about the realities that have shaped his leadership, including serious health challenges, the weight of long-term ministry, and the lessons learned through risk-filled decisions around finances, staffing, and vision. He reflects on learning to lead through team-based decision-making, dependence on mentors, obedience to the Holy Spirit, and a deep commitment to integrity and time in God’s Word. From leading a church through debt-free milestones to navigating regret, faith-driven risk, and the urgency of stewarding each day well, this conversation offers a thoughtful, grounded look at what it means to lead with humility, finish well, and trust God through every season of building.

What happens when a group of ordinary believers asks God to use them in extraordinary ways? Pastor Austin Edwards traces the journey of Citylight Church from a simple desire to make disciples to a multiplying network of congregations impacting the city and stretching to other states. With humility and transparency, he shares how their culture was shaped, what they’ve learned through both opportunities and obstacles, and why staying rooted in relationships has been essential.

Austin offers honest insight into the challenges of leadership, the necessity of prayerful surrender, and the joy of watching God move in ways no strategy could manufacture. Whether you’re a pastor, ministry leader, or simply passionate about disciple-making, this episode will encourage you to trust God with what He’s building — and to step faithfully into your part of the mission.