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Most families keep their secrets locked away. For Chris McKinnell, the secrets came with the family name.

Chris is the grandson of Ed and Lorraine Warren, the legendary paranormal investigators whose case files inspired The Conjuring and Annabelle films. To millions of horror fans, the Warrens are larger-than-life figures who faced down demons on the big screen. To Chris, they were simply Grandma and Grandpa.

In this episode of Hostage to the Devil, Chris opens up about the people behind the legend. He shares personal memories of growing up in the shadow of two of the most famous names in the paranormal world and what it meant to know them away from the cameras, the crowds, and the darkness they spent their lives confronting.

We also ask the question every fan wants answered: How much of the Hollywood story is true? Chris takes us behind the silver screen to separate fact from fiction, revealing where the movies capture the Warrens' work and where the story drifts into pure cinema.

But the Warren legacy didn't end with Ed and Lorraine. Chris has stepped into the unknown himself, carrying on the family's work with his own paranormal investigations. He talks about what draws him to the unexplained, what he has encountered, and what it's like to walk the same haunted path his grandparents walked decades before.

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Robert Marro Jr. joins Marty to discuss his memoir, Malachi Martin: In the Shadows of the Vatican, and his friendship with Martin during the final decade of Martin’s life.

The conversation covers Marro’s account of Martin’s work, his Vatican connections and the stories behind the book.

Episode links and sources:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Malachi-Martin-Robert-Marro-Jr/dp/B0F317QK31/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Music by Andrew Simon McAllister. Produced by Causeway Pictures and Scattered Images.

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Cheryl joins Marty to describe a lifetime of experiences she attributes to demonic oppression, including disturbing incidents in her homes and her efforts to seek help through her Catholic diocese.

Content includes discussion of sexual assault and distressing personal experiences.

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https://www.youtube.com/@cannephillips

Music by Andrew Simon McAllister. Produced by Causeway Pictures and Scattered Images.

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Marty speaks with Archbishop Ronald Feyl Enright about his work in the exorcism ministry, his approach to assessing reported possession cases and the development of his investigative process.

The interview explores his experience, beliefs and work with clergy and investigation teams.

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https://www.facebook.com/ron.feyl.9
https://www.orderofexorcists.com
https://orderofexorcists.weebly.com
https://stmichaelsseminary.com
https://www.youtube.com/@archbishopronaldfeylenright
https://www.blurb.com/b/11008816-exorcist-s-secret-journal
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0CK14TC98

Music by Andrew Simon McAllister. Produced by Causeway Pictures and Scattered Images.

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An uncut interview with paranormal investigator John Zaffis, recorded by Marty on 4 March 2015 during the US production of Hostage to the Devil.

Zaffis discusses his work with Ed and Lorraine Warren, paranormal investigations and his experiences assisting exorcists.

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Nathan recounts the disturbances his family reported at their Northern Ireland home in 2003 and the visit from Lorraine Warren and Tony Spera.

Marty explores the family’s experiences and their search for an explanation.

Episode links and sources:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/the-house-where-ulster-says-boo-1.763725

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Marty interviews Father César Truqui in Rome about his experience in the Catholic exorcism ministry and his teaching at the Pontifical Athenaeum Regina Apostolorum.

Recorded during development of the Hostage to the Devil documentary, this archive interview explores exorcism training and the prayer of liberation.

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Art Bell speaks with Marty at his home in Pahrump, Nevada, in this uncut interview recorded on 19 February 2015 for the Hostage to the Devil documentary.

Hear from the founder and original host of Coast to Coast AM in an archive conversation from the film’s production.

Music by Andrew Simon McAllister. Produced by Causeway Pictures and Scattered Images.

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