Prepare. To. Be. Happy.

Returning to Hospitality Meets, Klaudia Mitura - work psychologist, L&D leader at the Science Museum Group, host of The Happiness Challenge podcast, author of The Alphabet of Happiness, and an actual Certified Chief Happiness Officer (yes, really) delivers one of the most uplifting, honest, and quietly powerful conversations we’ve ever recorded.

This episode is not about toxic positivity, pretending everything’s fine, or slapping a smile on life’s messier moments.

It’s about science backed happiness, micro habits, curiosity, resilience, and learning how to live with the noise in your head - not silence it.

It’s warm.

It’s funny.

It’s deeply human.

And it might just change how you think about happiness altogether.

In This Episode

1. Klaudia’s return to the podcast nearly four years on, and how life has unfolded since
2. Losing a job, being separated from family, rescheduling a wedding four times, a family cancer diagnosis… and why happiness still mattered
3. Why Klaudia decided to treat her life like a scientific experiment
4. What the science of happiness actually tells us
5. Why happiness isn’t a destination - it’s a starting point
6. The power of micro-habits and why 1% changes beat life overhauls
7. Why happiness fuels kindness, generosity, optimism and impact
8. The danger of “I’ll be happy when…” thinking
9. Why curiosity might be the most underrated life skill of all

Happiness, But Not the Cringey Kind

Klaudia is very clear on one thing:

This is not about toxic positivity.

It’s not about ignoring grief, stress, uncertainty, or the very real challenges of life and work.

It’s about acknowledging them and giving yourself the tools to cope, recover, and move forward.

As Klaudia explains, happiness:

1. Helps us regulate our nervous system
2. Makes us more resilient under pressure
3. Increases kindness, generosity and problem solving
4. Gives us the energy to face hard things, not avoid them

Or put simply:

Happiness doesn’t deny reality.

It helps you deal with it.

Stand-Out Quotes

“Happiness is not a destination. It’s a starting point”

“We regret not allowing ourselves to be happier”

“You can be going through something hard and still experience joy”

“Happiness fuels kindness. Without it, we can’t change anything”

“You don’t need a life overhaul - you need small habits, done consistently”

Why Listen

This episode is for you if:

1. You’re tired of overcomplicating happiness

This week on Hospitality Meets, Phil sits down with Dulcie Swanston, bestselling author, executive coach, leadership trainer, neuroscience and psychology “magpie,” and one of the clearest thinkers you’ll ever meet in hospitality.

Dulcie’s career spans 23 years at Bass PLC / Mitchells & Butlers, senior HR leadership, graduate programme design, global executive coaching, and now running multiple businesses that all share one simple mission:

Make complicated things simple, and usable now!

From accidentally falling into hospitality after realising acting wasn’t for her… to becoming one of the most trusted leadership thinkers in the industry… this episode is packed with stories, insight, Yorkshire humour, and a lot of truth.

In This Episode

1. Why Dulcie believes “it’s not bloody rocket science” and why simplicity is a leadership superpower
2. Accidentally landing a graduate role at Bass PLC because it was the only application deadline still open, and why that changed everything
3. Turning up on day one… only to be told the marketing department no longer existed
4. Becoming the company’s first ever “commercial graduate” a role nobody could quite define
5. Working across finance, property, operations, HR and brand, and why that breadth became a gift
6. Managing O’Neill’s pubs taking £50–60k a week and winning global performance awards
7. Recruiting and developing women into leadership roles when talent was hidden in plain sight
8. Finding her true calling in HR in her mid 30s and realising leadership is about helping others be great at their jobs
9. The difference between leaders whose teams perform only when they’re present… and leaders whose teams thrive when they’re not
10. Why great leaders (and great coaches) aim to make themselves redundant

Imposter “Syndrome”? Not Here.

One of the standout sections of the episode is Dulcie’s reframing of imposter syndrome which she refuses to call a syndrome at all.

Instead, she calls it:

Well, tune in to find out

Her take?

“If you think you’re finished as a leader or coach — you’re finished.”

She shares powerful imagery about the two voices on our shoulders, why our brains constantly lie to protect us, and how learning to notice those lies without shame is the key to growth.

Stand-Out Quotes

“Happy people make more money.” Dulcie Swanston

“The brain isn’t a video recorder — it’s an editing machine.” Dulcie Swanston

“Great leaders get their teams to perform brilliantly when they’re not there.” Dulcie Swanston

“If you think you’re done learning — move aside.” Dulcie Swanston

“Comfort with ambiguity is one of the greatest leadership strengths there is.” Dulcie Swanston

Why Listen

This episode is a goldmine for anyone who:

This week on Hospitality Meets, Phil sits down with Matt McCabe, Founder of Subu Connect - a platform created to bridge the gap between food and beverage suppliers and global buyers across airlines, foodservice and hospitality.

Matt’s story is one of curiosity, courage, accidental brilliance, and a lot of beautifully human learning along the way. From a 19-year-old Irish hotel management student taking a leap into a German kitchen… to buying food for prisons, parliaments and planes… to building his own tech platform from scratch - this is a masterclass in connection, leadership, humility and trust.

It also includes one of the greatest stories ever told on the podcast involving… mayonnaise.

In This Episode

1. How a leap of faith took Matt from hotel school in Ireland to cooking in Germany, Switzerland and London — including a stint at The Dorchester with 120 chefs in the kitchen
2. The moment Matt realised chefs don’t buy food and how that insight led him into procurement and supply chain leadership
3. Why asking for help (and admitting you don’t know something) is one of the most powerful leadership skills you can develop
4. What running food supply for UK prisons, the House of Lords, and then Emirates Airline Catering taught him about scale, systems and humanity
5. The emotional and cultural challenge of moving his family to Dubai - and what that transition really felt like
6. How a chance LinkedIn event invitation on holiday led to the creation of Subu Connect almost overnight
7. The reality of becoming a founder: self-belief, risk, financial uncertainty, and emotional investment
8. Why Matt believes “Every Connection Matters” - and how relationships compound over time

Stand-Out Quotes

“I never really believed in myself. I was waiting for the lightbulb moment — and I used that as an excuse not to start”

“Every connection matters. No conversation is ever wasted”

“I physically feel it when the company struggles — like you would with a child or a loved one”

“We’re not the stars — the suppliers are. We’re just the stage”

“People didn’t invest in the platform. They invested in me and what I stand for”

Why Listen

This episode is a beautiful exploration of:

1. Career reinvention and courage
2. The hidden emotional side of entrepreneurship
3. Leadership through vulnerability and trust
4. The power of curiosity and asking better questions
5. Why hospitality skills translate into almost every other industry
6. How values shape sustainable businesses

It’s a reminder that...

This week, Phil sits down with Chetan Bhanot, Group General Manager of The Mandeville Hotel in Marylebone and Pendley Manor in Hertfordshire - two stunning properties he leads with equal parts humility, humour and impressive calm.

Chetan’s story spans 32 years in hospitality, from hotel school in India, to Hilton and InterContinental, to JW Marriott Mumbai’s first-ever opening, to London’s NH Hotels, Harrington Hall, and now a dual-property leadership role he’s held for nearly a decade. It’s a journey filled with learning, pressure, kindness - and the occasional guest who forgets where they left their car.

This episode is rich with leadership lessons, humanity, and proper belly laughs.

In This Episode

1. Finding hospitality through a school friend in India, discovering the power of people and team sports, and starting a career that now spans over 30 years Chetan Bhanot
2. The power of environment — why even the most talented people struggle in broken systems, and how the team–self–ownership triangle must align for success
3. Hotel school → Hilton → InterContinental → JW Marriott — the early years that shaped his entire leadership philosophy
4. Moving to the UK and rising through NH Hotels to Director of Hotels UK, with senior leaders who “held the ladder” so others could climb
5. COVID chaos: losing full kitchen teams, reopening four times in two years, housekeeping stepping in to help the kitchen, and how the team “kept smiling through it all” Chetan Bhanot
6. The 2011 London riots — the scariest moment of his career, locking down the hotel, protecting guests, and hotels banding together to keep each other safe
7. Work-life balance vs. balance — and why hospitality now can offer both
8. Paying it forward — why leaders must give others the same opportunities they were given, and why career growth comes when you stop chasing titles and start enjoying the work
9. Huge expansion plans at both The Mandeville and Pendley Manor, from new bedrooms to new ballrooms to full refurbishments

And the Funny Story You Have to Hear…

A guest storms into reception convinced his car has been stolen from the hotel.

Police nearly called.

Panic everywhere.

Then CCTV...

I'll let you tune in to hear

Stand-Out Quotes

“You’re not what happens to you — you are how you choose to rebuild”

“During COVID, we didn’t open once — we opened four times. And every time, the team stood together”

“Failure is a negative word. Replace it with ‘learning’ — it changes everything”

“A team works when ego and job titles are left at the door”

“People held the ladder for me. Now it’s my turn to hold it for others”

Why...

To watch this episode, head to https://youtu.be/tMghGC2VZMo

This week, we’re in one of the stunning bedrooms at Corinthia London, talking to a man whose story genuinely feels like a film.

Simon Casson, now CEO of Corinthia Hotels and former President EMEA at Four Seasons, was once told at 15 that he was a failure, that his education was over, and that he should “learn to fix cars or join the army”

He went home devastated. His mum came back from a bar shift, wrapped her arms around him and said:

“Simon, you’re special. You’re going to be a leader of men. You’re going to achieve great wealth and success. And I believe in you”

From washing dishes and sleeping in a room above a local restaurant… to becoming the youngest GM in Four Seasons… to running 45 hotels and 17,000 people… to now leading Corinthia’s push to “challenge luxury’s usual suspects” - this is a story of belief, graft, failure, and a very people first kind of success.

In This Episode

1. “You’re a failure” at 15 – the careers officer, the crushing conversation, and the one sentence from his mum that changed everything
2. Dishes, cheap digs & cheap labour – washing up, living above the restaurant, then a “management training scheme” that was really just doing every job in the hotel (and secretly the best education imaginable)
3. Castles, chefs & the Four Seasons bug – being spotted by Kit Chapman at The Castle at Taunton, working alongside a young Gary Rhodes, and being introduced to Four Seasons as “the greatest hotel company in the world”
4. From managing to leading – the early disaster as Room Service Manager at Four Seasons London and the moment it all changed
5. Washington, Doha, Dubai & beyond – Clinton era D.C., meeting heads of state and celebrities, becoming the youngest Four Seasons GM in Doha, opening hotels in the Middle East and Africa, and eventually becoming President for Europe, Middle East & Africa
6. Sacrifice, anxiety & imposter syndrome – missing chunks of his kids’ childhood, hiding the fact he had no degree, and learning that pressure, doubt and growth often live in the same room
7. The “second mountain” – stepping away after 35 years at Four Seasons, retreating to a farm in Croatia, and then being courted by global brands before choosing Corinthia as the place to write his next chapter
8. Corinthia’s new chapter – why London was transformational, how New York became “the star of the Met Gala”, and what it really means to be a “true contender” in global luxury

Stand-Out Quotes

“When the whole world’s saying, ‘No, you can’t,’ you really just need one person to say, ‘Yes, I believe in you. You can.’”

“We’re all masters of our own destinies. We all have to polish our own diamond.”

“Leadership has to be rooted in humanity. It has to be rooted in kindness. It has to be anchored in really caring about people’s...

Every now and then, an episode arrives that contains everything we love about hospitality:

chaos, heart, humour, problem solving… and at least two stories involving naked guests.

This week Phil chats with James McComas FIH, General Manager of Eastwell Manor, part of the Champneys Group. At 6'5", James is one of the tallest men Phil knows — which, as it turns out, comes with unexpected job perks

But behind the laughter sits a deeply thoughtful leader with a wonderfully varied hospitality journey: from growing up on army bases and falling into hotels at 15, to adventuring across the US, spending five transformational years in New Zealand, then returning to the UK to run heritage properties, country houses and boutique hotels.

In This Episode

• How James went from growing up on army bases to discovering hospitality at 15 and never looking back
• Wild stories from Colorado and the early years, including saunas and frat parties
• Five transformative years in New Zealand and the cultural lessons that shaped his leadership style
• The messy, brilliant reality of becoming a GM, including sewage explosions, fires, and emotional hospitality
• Life at Eastwell Manor today: heritage charm, low doorframes, and why tall GMs are secretly maintenance heroes
• More than his fair share of nudity exposure

Stand-Out Quotes

“The absence of criticism is not the same as the provision of support”

“You almost can’t be wrong — because in that moment, you don’t yet know what ‘right’ is”

“Everywhere I’ve worked, I’ve come away grateful for what I’ve learned”

“These stories balance out the tough days — they remind you why we do this”

Why Listen

This episode is everything hospitality really is:

funny, unpredictable, emotional, human, and a lifelong learning journey.

James brings:

• Sharp leadership insight
• Real talk about stepping up to GM
• Incredible travel stories
• A deep appreciation for culture and people
• Two of the best hotel anecdotes ever recorded

And behind the humour is a leader who genuinely loves this industry, and shows you exactly why

Enjoy!

Show Partners

A big shout out to the first of today’s show partner, RotaCloud, the people management platform for shift-based teams.

RotaCloud lets managers create and share rotas, record attendance, and manage annual leave in minutes — all from a single, web-based app.

It makes work simple for your team, too, allowing them to check their rotas, request holiday, and even pick up extra shifts straight from their phones.

Try RotaCloud’s time-saving tools today by heading to https://rotacloud.com/phil

Also, a massive shout out to our new show partners Apron

Running a hospitality business means juggling endless payments - from suppliers to staff - all while keeping cash flow in check. That’s where Apron helps.

With Apron Bill Pay, you can manage every supplier payment in one place, approve and schedule bills, and sync automatically with Xero or QuickBooks.

And with the Apron Card, your team can spend easily while you stay in control - and earn rewards on every purchase.

Learn more at getapron.com.

If you’ve ever wondered what happens when you mix hustle, humility, a bit of chaos, and a moment of pure stage-fright… this episode has you covered.

This week, I sat down with Tom James, Managing Director of Bill’s Restaurants, and a man whose career has taken him from glass collector to running iconic hospitality brands with a detour involving an incident with Jamie Oliver. Is that really his name?

it’s every bit as painful and glorious as it sounds.

But beyond the comedy gold, Tom brings serious insight on leadership, culture, brand evolution, and the real work behind transforming a casual dining business in a turbulent market.

In This Episode

• The 16 year old glass collector who instantly fell in love with the buzz of hospitality
• Why hospitality should count as national service
• The mentor who changed Tom’s life and convinced him to skip his degree for a bar manager job at 20
• Becoming a General Manager at 24 and the power of someone seeing potential in you before you see it in yourself
• Forgetting everything you think you know when joining a new business (and why it matters)
• The Padstow Hotel summer that taught him more in four weeks than the entire year before
• Why casual dining’s old “playbooks” no longer work in a market that changes every two months
• How Bill’s rebuilt its identity, doubled EBITDA, and refocused the business around culture, data and genuine hospitality
• Why six out of ten experiences are basically an invitation to try somewhere else

Stand-Out Quotes

“You’ve always got to find a way. The failures… what are the learnings? How can I do it better?”

“The nicest, kindest, most generous man I’ve met in hospitality is Bill — he’s still our cultural benchmark.”

“Six out of ten is saying: try somewhere else next time.”

“The best loyalty comes from emotional connection — not discounting.”

“I learned more in four weeks running that hotel than in the entire year before.”

Why Listen

This episode is a masterclass in:

• Leadership without ego
• Culture-driven transformation
• Brand identity in a challenging market
• The messy, human, hilarious reality of hospitality

And above all, Tom’s story is a reminder of why this industry is so special:

it takes good people, stretches them, teaches them, shapes them — and occasionally gives them stories they’ll never, ever live down.

Including Jamie Oliver

Show Partners

A big shout out to the first of today’s show partner, RotaCloud, the people management platform for shift-based teams.

RotaCloud lets managers create and share rotas, record attendance, and manage annual leave in minutes — all from a single, web-based app.

It makes work simple for your team, too, allowing them to check their rotas, request holiday, and even pick up extra shifts straight from their phones.

Try RotaCloud’s time-saving tools today by heading to https://rotacloud.com/phil

Also, a massive shout out to our new show partners Apron

Running a hospitality business means juggling endless payments - from suppliers to staff - all while keeping cash flow in check. That’s where Apron helps.

With Apron Bill Pay, you can manage every supplier payment in one place, approve and schedule bills,...

This week, we’re talking about something every hospitality person knows all too well: pain.

Back pain. Neck pain. Shoulder pain. “I’ve been on my feet for 14 hours” pain. But what if… most of it isn’t actually coming from your body?

Enter Gemma McFall (Gemma McFall – Pain Reprocessing Therapist)— Chronic Pain Recovery Coach, former hotel HR leader, Disney alum, and the only person whose first hospitality shift involved covering herself in six bowls of soup.

A true industry baptism. 😂

Gemma lived with debilitating chronic pain for ten years — through hotels, homeworking, young kids, and long haul flights — before discovering the science that completely changed her life.

Now, she helps hospitality people understand the one thing no one ever told us:

👉 Pain is created in the brain — and it can be unlearned.

• The hospitality origin story involving Leicester Tigers and soup
• How her dream career turned into years of chronic pain
• Why perfectionists, overthinkers & people-pleasers are most at risk
• The science of pain: threat systems, predictive coding & fear loops
• The moment she realised nothing was “structurally wrong”
• What actually works — education, evidence logs, emotional awareness
• Why chefs, servers and managers often misattribute pain to the job
• How leaders can spot pain patterns in their teams

Gemma’s stand-out lines

“Pain becomes a learned response — it’s predictive coding”

“Being old doesn’t equal being in pain”

“The smartest people have the worst pain”

“People get used to being in pain. It becomes a way of being”

If you’ve ever blamed your job, your shoes, your mattress or your age for your aches, this episode will change your thinking completely.

It’s funny, practical and properly eye-opening.

A genuine life-upgrade episode.

Show Partners

A big shout out to the first of today’s show partner, RotaCloud, the people management platform for shift-based teams.

RotaCloud lets managers create and share rotas, record attendance, and manage annual leave in minutes — all from a single, web-based app.

It makes work simple for your team, too, allowing them to check their rotas, request holiday, and even pick up extra shifts straight from their phones.

Try RotaCloud’s time-saving tools today by heading to https://rotacloud.com/phil

Also, a massive shout out to our new show partners Apron

Running a hospitality business means juggling endless payments - from suppliers to staff - all while keeping cash flow in check. That’s where Apron helps.

With Apron Bill Pay, you can manage every supplier payment in one place, approve and schedule bills, and sync automatically with Xero or QuickBooks.

And with the Apron Card, your team can spend easily while you stay in control - and earn rewards on every purchase.

Learn more at getapron.com.