Kait and JJ Tomlin (the couple behind Heart of Dating) join Levi and Jennie for a hilarious, super-helpful conversation about what dating looks like right now—and why so many women feel frustrated while so many men feel shut down. From “80% isn’t enough” expectations to the weird ways dating apps have turned people into filters and checkboxes, they get real about what’s happening in the church and what actually helps.

Along the way, they unpack what to look for beneath the surface (hello, teachability + humility), why “trajectory” matters more than perfection, and how to think about attraction with more wisdom than a swipe. Plus, you’ll hear their own unexpected meet-cute—from a Zoom “blind date bachelor” moment to long-distance FaceTimes and a relationship built on character (wolf sweater and all).

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Kait: @kaitness

JJ: @jjtomlin

Levi: @levilusko

Jennie: @jennielusko

Fresh Life Church: @freshlife

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Heart of Dating:

Heart of Dating Podcast:

School of Dating (16-week mentorship):

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Time Stamps

01:50 – The dating convo everyone needs (not just singles)

03:10 – Why women feel stuck and men feel discouraged

11:17 – The real “bar” for maturity: responsibility + discipleship

19:55 – Drop the filters: height, attraction, and dating apps

27:14 – Their Zoom meet-cute (and “Emily” makes an appearance)

40:02 – Heart of Dating: podcast, mentorship, coaching, and community

Grayson and Jezlyn Bearden join Levi and Jennie for a conversation that starts with real-life parenting hilarity (minivan life, sleep training, and surviving “three under three”) and quickly turns into something deeply powerful: what it looks like to walk through addiction, betrayal, and restoration—together.

With honesty and hope, the Beardens share their redemption story, the difference between rushing back to a platform vs. getting truly healthy, and the practical road of recovery (community, accountability, and walking in the light). If you’ve ever felt like your story is too messy to be meaningful, this episode is a reminder that God does some of His best work right in the middle of it.

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Grayson: @graysonbearden

Jezlyn: @jezlynbearden

Levi: @levilusko

Jennie: @jennielusko

Fresh Life Church: @freshlife

[Links]

Between Us Podcast: https://bit.ly/49nml3d

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Time Stamps

0:00:32 – Full hearts, full vans, and boy-mom bathroom hacks

0:04:11 – Sleep training, sound machines, and travel sleep setups

0:12:55 – Stop calling it chaos: choosing “full” language

0:17:56 – Teen pregnancy, blended family, and church support done right

0:29:53 – When hidden sin surfaced, and healing got real

0:45:14 – Divorce papers, wise voices, and fighting for the home

Jonathan Pokluda sits down with Levi and Jennie for a conversation that’s equal parts laugh-out-loud and deeply grounding. JP unpacks his 16-day hospital saga—how it started with a leg not working right, turned into a diagnosis of transverse myelitis, and somehow included an unforgettable “marriage moment” that belongs in the Hall of Fame.

From spiritual warfare to being aware without being afraid, and what JP learned while researching Your Story Has a Villain—including the country club moment in Aspen that made everything feel painfully real. Plus: Halloween, discernment, and even the surprisingly practical question of how to use AI as a tool without letting it use you—followed by a closing story about a cold plunge that… never actually happened.

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JP: @jpokluda

Levi: @levilusko

Jennie: @jennielusko

Fresh Life Church: @freshlife

[Links]

Your Story Has a Villain: https://bit.ly/4ai2rsH

Becoming Something Podcast: https://bit.ly/4rZROB6

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Time Stamps

0:01:43 – Six-toed cats and the weird grace of being “different”

0:03:24 – JP’s 16-day hospital scare and the symptoms that changed everything

0:16:54 – Real marriage: praying fire for a bowel movement

0:23:20 – Why JP wrote Your Story Has a Villain

0:28:49 – The Aspen Country Club story that made spiritual warfare unmistakable

0:44:06 – Loving God “on purpose,” AI guardrails, and using tools wisely