Join Larry and Heidi as they interview our newest BMA church planter, Nathan Smith, about discipleship-based multiplication and gospel advancement. These are not intricate strategies, but rather a simple biblical process any leader can implement. He shares exciting testimony about what's been happening in Roswell, NM, before the move. Books suggested are 4 Chair Discipling by Dann Spader and Gospelize by Greg Stier. If you'd like to support this new church plant in Elizabeth, CO, or have questions, you can reach Nathan at nathanandkendras@gmail.com.

Guest Angelyn McMurray - HCP 296

On this episode of the HCP. Drew and Larry welcome Angelyn McMurray, director of We Are Free, a ministry to women coming out of Sex Trafficking. This conversation focuses on how the church should consider this issue and the relational aspects of people in need dealing with it. It's happening in and around our churches, and we must be ready to meet people who are affected by it.

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wearefree.us

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On this episode of the HCP, the team discusses 5 ways to build trust as you lead people.

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They're Talking (p. 2) - HCP 319

On this episode Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss how to help create an atmosphere of grace in these situations. This is a follow up conversation to P. 1.

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They're Talking p. 1 - HCP 318

On this episode of the HCP - Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss how to respond when a church member say's "People are talking about you or about something you don't know about". As a church leader, your throat gets tight and you start to worry about what is being said. How do you respond to this kind of comment or situation?

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Family of Origin p. 2 - HCP 317

On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Drew and Heidi discuss this topic of Family Origin at a deeper level. Our family of origin effects every area of our lives and we will lead from that place by default if we don't fully understand the need to surrender to Christ's leadership and sanctification process in our hearts.

*Heidi's connection is lost later in this episode.

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Guest Charles Johnson - HCP 316

On this episode, Larry, Drew and Heidi welcome Pastor Charles Johnson, Pastor of Rosewood Baptist Church in Gilmer, TX. He's pastored there for 42 years and worked both as a full-time and bi-vocational pastor. He will be a featured presenter at the ReCharge Retreat Sept. 28-30 at Great Wolf Lodge in Grapevine, TX.

Links for podcast: ReCharge Leadership Retreat deadline 8/28,

http://bmaamerica.org/recharge

Books Steve mentioned in the Podcast:

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Guest Steve Crawley - HCP 315

On this episode of the HCP, Larry, Heidi and Drew welcome Dr. Steve Crawley to the podcast. Steve currently serves as the CFO for Lifeword.Org and the Executive Director for BMA Financial. Steve has a PhD in Leadership and has created a discipleship program for men called MD5. Steve will also be speaking at ReCharge 2026.

Steve@bmaamerica.org

Links for podcast: ReCharge Leadership Retreat deadline 8/28,

http://bmaamerica.org/recharge

Books Steve mentioned in the Podcast:

Spiritual Leadership, Blackaby

https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Leadership-Moving-Revised-Expanded/dp/1433669188/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2972NF0V00NLA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Ui7liaf1gl5epJwyM9OxBODJz6apAdyRGrPRyw4uGG-Vr7EOIt_LLm3ay9h5FO0Z4ClxS9n6y8rGYSZs_l9REOIXJz2NMhjY85E_K-DKl2SSaXkM6e1h34DHWNblOYSY0rSpQn5B8Y3_5KSPK7zi-cPOtVBcd2PlS6cSsP-FB6-dF5TF7xdhvvAe-D0SQ-R4wzp6-jK87DMetew-oqQLwv86nEAkrElzBylWFZwdVoU.0JGdtreKyLbbPr_QqhoS7ZiI_vgtavzXfJNvo7u57Ek&dib_tag=se&keywords=spiritual+leadership+blackaby&qid=1787351950&sprefix=Spiritual+leader%2Caps%2C173&sr=8-1

Reframing Organizations, Bolman and Deal

https://www.amazon.com/Reframing-Organizations-Artistry-Choice-Leadership/dp/1394341156/ref=sr_1_1?crid=BF75Y05DB0UI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.PgjQ37eUel8Xo11FRb5u_H8O1oqwOHGLw-wA2oUcBXFI58SInSZgaRaB2593BClU9pVG7gRxYoLQiKscdPLRwlmd3Kf-0v62NuBcqbb_WmddGuLA-WaRA51PjxViFeKRwgie83mCJor44wD7gnbgN6rvYcY27Z_3U6Gt6D6VRNlNDHlD_khcg32Rr1e2fFkpk4ER3MpHyvG-j-kdOdX1XiDS2jQGBWXzl2uR9W_TKQE.o-sXrHWvRLbm-Zux_Y2xZ0CZ8-cH82y8YdCKhXSo8zQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=reframing+organizations&qid=1787351979&sprefix=reframing+org%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-1

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