In this deeply layered and liberating episode, Jazmine sits down with the incredible Rev. Deborah L. Johnson—affectionately known as Rev. D—for a powerful conversation about healing through church hurt, reclaiming your spiritual identity, and giving yourself radical permission to be fully, unapologetically you.

Rev. D shares her journey from being raised in the Pentecostal Church of God in Christ, to founding her own inclusive spiritual community, and becoming a trailblazer for justice, love, and truth. Together, they unpack what it means to separate spirituality from religion, why love is the root of it all, and how we can decolonize our minds from limiting beliefs around faith, identity, and worth.

This episode is a call to stop waiting for external validation and start leading with the divine authority within. From scripture to spoken word, you’ll hear stories, insights, and truths that shake the soul and soothe the spirit.

Topics We Cover:

• Healing from church hurt without losing your faith
• Reclaiming Christianity from fundamentalism
• Internalized oppression and spiritual decolonization
• Why God wastes nothing—and uses everything
• Making peace with your past and your power
• The difference between spirituality and religion
• Creating space for all of who you are

This one is for anyone who's ever felt too much, too different, or not enough in spiritual spaces. You belong. You are not alone. And your healing is holy.