Part 2 of Paul McCartney's story will take you inside the daily life of his band Wings as they ascend to the charts. However, can they sustain their flight path given the fact that a famous Beatle is now at the helm with his own ideas of how a band should work... In Part 2 you'll learn:

1. How Paul recruited members of The Band
2. An analysis of Linda McCartney and her role in the band from a number of perspectives
3. A discussion of the pioneering techniques employed by McCartney in the studio
4. The untold and unbelievable circumstances during the legendary Band on the Run album recording
5. The financial challenges members of the band faced
6. An insightful analysis of Paul McCartney's personality

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Allan Kozinn the co-author of a two volume pair of books called The McCartney Legacy, a retrospective of Paul McCartney's career from the end of the Beatles onward. Allan is best known for his 37 year tenure at the New York Times, covering classical music and what was called "The Beatles desk". He currently contributes reviews for the Wall Street Journal. The first volume of his works on McCartney covers the year 1969 to 73. Volume 2 picks up from 1974 to 1980. Rolling Stone described the book as "comprehensive, painstaking, dazzling, and a definitive chronicle..." The Weekend Mail the UK said of the book, the following quote, "If the devil is in the detail, then the McCartney legacy is positively satanic". Allan joined us today from Portland, Maine.

Listen in to inside details of how The Beatles empire collapsed and Paul McCartney's next challenge: could he be successful again without the banner, without the brothers, without the myth? What followed was not a smooth second act. It began as a retreat, a reinvention...hits, misses and masterpieces all followed, each carrying the fingerprints of a man unwilling to fade quietly into history. This is the story of what happens after you've already conquered the world and have to prove you can do it again... In Part 1 you'll learn:

1. The secret power struggle that tore The Beatles apart from the inside
2. The hidden messages in the lyrical war between John Lennon and Paul McCartney
3. The unlikely family connection that quietly fueled Paul’s post-Beatles rise
4. The near-tragedy that sparked the birth of the name Wings
5. The early clues of looming challenges facing the new band

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Allan Kozinn the co-author of a two volume pair of books called The McCartney Legacy, a retrospective of Paul McCartney's career from the end of the Beatles onward. Allan is best known for his 37 year tenure at the New York Times, covering classical music and what was called "The Beatles desk". He currently contributes reviews for the Wall Street Journal. The first volume of his works on McCartney covers the year 1969 to 73. Volume 2 picks up from 1974 to 1980. Rolling Stone described the book as "comprehensive, painstaking, dazzling, and a definitive chronicle..." The Weekend Mail the UK said of the book, the following quote, "If the devil is in the detail, then the McCartney legacy is positively satanic". Allan joined us today from Portland, Maine.

Take yourself back to Swinging London for the formation of The Who in 1964. Guest Mark Wilkerson, author of Who are You: The Life of Pete Townshend discussed The Who's enormous influence on rock music sound, album structure and concert staging all while navigating through the offstage mayhem that become synonymous with this group. In this episode you'll learn:

1. How lead songwriter and guitarist Pete Townshend became rock's foremost innovator
2. How a mysterious religious figure’s theories were embedded in the band’s most famous songs
3. The bizarre tale of The Who's manager in a violent crime in an uncharted area of Amazon Rainforest
4. How the band used an opera structure to create new formats for music
5. Why the band was banned from a major hotel chain for life
6. How band members' distaste for one another was a cited key to their success

Anchored by songwriter and guitarist Pete Townshend, an art school student, who as you will hear brought art concepts into the band's songs and stage performance. Townsend continued that innovation by creating incredible forms of rock music, modeled after operas and integrating computers into music before any other band.

Guest Bio:
Mark Wilkerson wrote Who are You: The Life of Pete Townshend. Mark was born in England and lived there for 14 years and fell in love with The Who's music before moving to the US in 1984. A few years later, a fellow Townshend fan Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam, asked Mark to join the team that put together PJ:20 An official history of Pearl Jam to commemorate the band's 20th anniversary.

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Known for their influential music, explosive live shows and rebellious sound, The Who's impact on rock music and cultural landscape continues to inspire and influence generations, with over 100 million records sold. This band is truly a global phenomenon and has influenced bands across punk, alternative, and rock.

You will be astonished at the story of The Who's musical sophistication and innovation. Yet, The Who live in concert still knew how to get down to business and rock you. For years, they were considered the best live band in the world, and the loudest. And as you will hear, there were several tragic downsides that threatened this band to create an incredible story like no other.

If any band defines the long odds of the garage-to-stadiums journey...it’s The Cars. Grinding through years in Boston, they cycled through wildly different sounds before finally striking gold—fusing punk edge with pop precision to help define a new musical decade.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

1. How bandleader Ric Ocasek and his partner Ben Orr struggled for years to unlock their breakthrough sound
2. The surprising number of genres the band attemped before succeeding
3. The reveal of the secret formula of musical styles they combined and perfected
4. The strange, behind-the-scenes reasons the band unraveled at their peak
5. How Ocasek’s vision went on to shape countless future artists

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Peter Aaron is the author of Moving in Stereo: Ric Ocasek, The Driving Force Behind the Cars. Peter is a veteran of the music industry having written on acts like the Ramones and the Band, and as the arts editor of Chronogram Magazine. Peter is also the front man of influential New York band The Chrome Cranks. His writing has appeared in The Village Voice, the Boston Herald, and several other publications.

A top 5% of podcasts in the world, Garage to Stadiums is a podcast for true music fans — the ones who want more than just headlines and hype. This show is for listeners who care about the full story behind the artists: their childhoods, musical influences, early gigs, personal battles, journey to stadium-level fame and the drama in between.

Why are we different? In each episode host Dave Anthony features guests who know their stuff and bring real insights from their time with the performers — from respected rock journalists to documentary filmmakers.

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Picture a 1970s American teen, dressed as Frank N. Furter from Rocky Horror, interviewed on local TV outside a suburban cinema. That fearless teen grows up to be Michael Stipe, lead singer of R.E.M., the first alternative band to achieve global commercial success, from its origins in tiny Athens, Georgia. On this episode you'll learn:

• How Athens, Georgia became the unlikely spawning ground for several successful bands.
• How R.E.M. created a memorable sound by combining punk, pop music, southern rock and R'n'B
• Why Pearl Jam and Nirvana cited R.E.M. as a major trailblazer, and influence on their sound
• How an onstage near-tragedy changed the band forever...
• The college radio strategy the company employed to build its credibility and momentum
• Why R.E.M. turned down the offer to write a theme song for the popular TV show Friends

The first alternative band to experience mass commercial success, R.E.M. occupies an influential position in music history, inspiring many bands with their fiercely independent spirit and sound. Astonishingly, the band first heard on 1980s college radio went on to sell 90 million albums.

Guest Bio - Peter Ames Carlin, author & journalist
Peter appeared on our Bruce Springsteen episode. In addition to writing a best-seller about Springsteen, he's chronicled Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys and Paul McCartney of The Beatles. His new book, The Name of This Band is R.E.M., has just been released.

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Listen to how a true California sound was born… from musicians who didn’t even come from California. In the late 1960s, four young artists arrived in Los Angeles from completely different corners of America. Blending country, rock, and soaring harmonies, Eagles captured the spirit of the American West and helped launch a new musical movement. Over the decades they would sell more than 150 million records and secure 2 of the top 4 spots in album sales in history. This is their journey from the garage to stadiums. In this episode, you'll learn:

1. How their childhoods shaped the music they would create
2. The superstar who gave Eagles their first big break in Los Angeles
3. The personality clashes that simmered behind the harmonies
4. Why the band deliberately changed their sound at their peak
5. The onstage threat of violence that foreshadowed the band’s breakup
6. Who shaped their sound - and the artists they went on to influence

Guest Bio
The guests for this episode are the authors of Eagles: Up Ahead in The Distance Eagles are our two guests, Steve Caparelli and Rick Forgo. They have authored a trilogy of books chronicling the incredible rise of this quintessential band.

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This is an astonishing story of the human spirit. Travel back to early 1960s Motown when an 11-year old child prodigy mysteriously appeared on the scene. Stevie Wonder rose from deep poverty, a fractured home and a significant physical disability to become one of the most influential musicians of all time. As you will hear, he was also a master of innovating new sounds, producing hits across many musical genres - soul, R'n'B, rock, reggae, pop, funk and more. In this episode you'll learn:

1. The incredible story of Stevie's birth and difficult family life
2. How Motown records was formed by an unexpected source, and then discovered Stevie
3. The ultimatum by a young Stevie that changes his economic situation
4. How a knock on a random door in New York resulted in Stevie's greatest albums
5. How a terrible accident changed Stevie forever
6. About his diverse set of hits from various genres

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Guest Bio
Paolo Hewitt has followed Stevie's career for decades. Paulo was a writer for UK music magazines, New Musical Express and Melody Maker, where he both interviewed Stevie Wonder and reviewed several of his albums. Paulo has also written extensively about the hiphop scene and has authored books on several artists. He appeared on two very popular Garage to Stadiums episodes to discuss the careers of David Bowie and Oasis.