Ben Kjar and LaCol Kjar return for Part 2 of their 'Epic Marriage' conversation with Nick and Alex. LaCol shares their 10-year infertility journey and the moment they reached peace without children. They told each other "we're good. If we go the rest of our lives without kids, that will be an amazing life together." After surrendering that desire to God, they were surprised with three children through adoption.

In this episode of the Epic Marriage Podcast, hosts Nick and Alex Leyva explore what happens when individual competitors learn to surrender control and become more together. Ben chose wrestling because he could control everything through individual effort. But marriage required surrendering control. His word for 2025 is "Let Him" after spending a lifetime grabbing the wheel from the passenger seat.

The Kjars prove that magic happens when you let messengers stir the holy waters in your life. Watch their story in Stand Out: The Ben Kjar Story, releasing January 23, 2026through Angel Studios. Tickets at StandOutFilm.com.

This is Part 2 of a two-episode series with Ben Kjar and LaCol Kjar. Listen to the full conversation on the Epic Marriage Podcast to hear how 10 years of infertility became their greatest marriage strength, why Ben's word for the year is "Let Him," and how two individual competitors learned to open up and become more together.

Watch their story in Stand Out: The Ben Kjar Story, releasing in theaters January 23, 2026 through Angel Studios. Get tickets at standoutfilm.com. Visit YourEpicMarriage.com for resources designed for temple-sealed couples building marriages that last.

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Ben and LaCol Kjar share their extraordinary love story on the Epic Marriage podcast. Ben was born with Crouzon Syndrome and became Utah Valley University's first All-American wrestler after doctors said contact sports were impossible. LaCol was a track athlete who slid into Ben's DMs and came home from their first date knowing she was in trouble—she thought she might be in love.

In this episode, hosts Nick and Alex Leyva explore the faith required when LaCol faced a massive decision: mission to Italy or marriage to Ben. The night before she was supposed to be set apart, Ben proposed. LaCol chose marriage, and the adversary attacked hard whenever they were apart during engagement.

The Kjars prove that extraordinary marriages happen when you choose each other even when the path isn't clear. Their story is featured in "Stand Out: The Ben Kjar Story," releasing January 23, 2026 through Angel Studios. Tickets at standoutfilm.com.

This is Part 1 of a two-episode series with Ben Kjar and LaCol Kjar. Listen to the full conversation on the Epic Marriage Podcast to hear how Ben became UVU's first All-American wrestler after doctors said contact sports were impossible, why LaCol chose marriage over her mission to Italy the night before leaving, and how choosing each other through financial struggle and adversarial attacks created a love story that stands out.

Stay tuned for Part 2, where Ben and LaCol dive deeper into refusing to settle for ordinary. Watch their story in Stand Out: The Ben Kjar Story, releasing in theaters January 23, 2026 through Angel Studios. Get tickets at standoutfilm.com. Visit YourEpicMarriage.com for resources designed for temple-sealed couples building marriages that last.

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Dr. Chelom Leavitt returns to Epic Marriage to discuss intimacy and sexuality in covenant relationships. Nick and Alex explore why disciples of Christ often struggle to connect spirituality with physical intimacy, and Dr. Leavitt explains how Satan distorts something designed to bond couples together.

In this episode of the Epic Marriage podcast, hosts Nick and Alex Leyva learn that emotional connection is the biggest contributing factor to meaningful sex, not physical technique or frequency. Dr. Leavitt challenges cultural messages about speeding up and increasing frequency, revealing these approaches cater only to male sexual response cycles. When couples slow down and become other-focused, both spouses report dramatically better experiences.

Dr. Leavitt draws connections between intimacy and spirituality, explaining how sex functions as a sacrament when approached with reverence. The episode closes with guidance for couples who feel uncomfortable discussing intimacy and need resources to weed out negative cultural attitudes.

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Nick and Alex Leyva unpack Bishop Gérald Caussé's BYU-Idaho devotional "I Saw Your Potential," which tells his personal story of meeting his wife Valérie 39 years ago. He describes himself as a nerdy, unattractive ward clerk who spent most of his time studying behind closed doors. When he asked Valérie how she fell in love with such an unattractive man, she answered, "I saw your potential."

In this episode of the Epic Marriage podcast, hosts Nick and Alex explore what it means to see divine potential in your spouse when you're frustrated by socks left around, different parenting styles, or daily challenges. Bishop Caussé draws parallels to Moses's encounter with God and the transformation promised in temple sealings. Successful eternal marriage requires tremendous faith: faith in your own potential, faith in your spouse's potential, and faith in Christ's atonement.

The Leyvas challenge listeners to pray for this experience if they haven't had it yet.

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Everyone leaves the temple holding hands. A temple matron told Jenny Oaks Baker this, and it stuck. When you grow closer to God, you grow closer together. That principle has anchored 27 years of marriage. In this episode of the Epic Marriage podcast, hosts Nick and Alex Leyva sit down with Jenny Oaks Baker, a Grammy-nominated violinist, and her husband Matt Baker, a CEO who manages both his company and logistics for Jenny's national tours.

Married for 27 years, they've raised four children who all perform professionally in their Christmas tour "Joy to the World." The Bakers share their four principles of marriage: time prioritization, choosing each other daily, loyalty strengthened by covenants, and an eternal perspective. Matt explains how supporting Jenny creates a ripple effect that reaches thousands. Jenny shares wisdom from her parents, including total loyalty and immediate conflict resolution. Plus, Matt's counterintuitive advice about going to bed angry but never alone.

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Nick and Alex Leyva sit down with Dr. Chelom Leavitt, a sex researcher and associate professor at BYU who has spent her career helping couples understand sexuality as something sacred, not taboo. Married for 36 years with nine children, Dr. Leavitt teaches that strong marriages don't happen by accident—they happen through daily intentional commitment.

This episode tackles why Latter-day Saints often miss out on understanding healthy sexuality despite having doctrine that should give us the deepest grasp of it. Dr. Leavitt explains how body and spirit combine to create the soul, and why our culture's rejection of marriage undermines personal development that only comes through covenant relationships.

The conversation explores the difference between conflict and contention—one brings couples closer while the other divides. Dr. Leavitt shares her 24-hour rule for handling disagreements and why being a "peacemaker" through avoidance only adds interest to unresolved problems. Marriage won't always make you happy, but it will make you holy if you let it.

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Nick and Alex Leyva celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Family Proclamation by unpacking Elder Ronald A. Rasband's recent General Conference talk. Discover the untold story of how President Russell M. Nelson led the committee that drafted this document, why it was first shared at a Relief Society meeting, and what the gender roles actually mean.

Many people view the proclamation as exclusionary, outdated, or controversial. But Nick and Alex argue it's the blueprint that applies to everyone, regardless of family background. They tackle the "dragon" nobody wants to face, explain why "preside" doesn't mean dominate, and break down the difference between accountability and exclusivity in marriage roles.

This episode of Epic Marriage combines doctrine with family science research, addressing objections head-on while offering practical ways to check in on presiding, providing, protecting, and nurturing in your own marriage. The proclamation isn't a nice suggestion. It's a revelation designed to protect families in increasingly difficult times.

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Temple marriages have a 12-14% divorce rate compared to 63% for the general population ages 20-40. But sealing alone isn't enough. The Leyva's walk through the three core truths restored through modern prophets: eternal identity, pre-mortal existence, and the plan of salvation. These aren't just doctrines; they're the foundation that helps couples build marriages that last.

Nick's mission experience teaching a Buddhist convert who realized he was a prince and Alex's struggle with numbing out to familiar truths both show why knowing you're a child of God changes everything about how you approach marriage. The proclamation isn't just a document on the wall; it's the roadmap for creating something that defeats death itself.

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