Ben Kjar and LaCol Kjar return for Part 2 of their 'Epic Marriage' conversation with Nick and Alex. LaCol shares their 10-year infertility journey and the moment they reached peace without children. They told each other "we're good. If we go the rest of our lives without kids, that will be an amazing life together." After surrendering that desire to God, they were surprised with three children through adoption.

In this episode of the Epic Marriage Podcast, hosts Nick and Alex Leyva explore what happens when individual competitors learn to surrender control and become more together. Ben chose wrestling because he could control everything through individual effort. But marriage required surrendering control. His word for 2025 is "Let Him" after spending a lifetime grabbing the wheel from the passenger seat.

The Kjars prove that magic happens when you let messengers stir the holy waters in your life. Watch their story in Stand Out: The Ben Kjar Story, releasing January 23, 2026through Angel Studios. Tickets at StandOutFilm.com.

This is Part 2 of a two-episode series with Ben Kjar and LaCol Kjar. Listen to the full conversation on the Epic Marriage Podcast to hear how 10 years of infertility became their greatest marriage strength, why Ben's word for the year is "Let Him," and how two individual competitors learned to open up and become more together.

Watch their story in Stand Out: The Ben Kjar Story, releasing in theaters January 23, 2026 through Angel Studios. Get tickets at standoutfilm.com. Visit YourEpicMarriage.com for resources designed for temple-sealed couples building marriages that last.

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