Dr John Kelly: Brain fingerprints, upstream thinking and systems change
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What if the problem isn’t how people learn — but how systems are designed?
In this episode of Conversations with Agents of Change, host Izy Boyd is joined by Dr John Kelly, founder of Fingerprint Learning, to explore how brain science and upstream thinking can reshape education, leadership, and innovation.
Drawing on insights from neuroscience, John challenges deficit-based models that label people as underachievers or failures. Instead, he reveals how entrepreneurial and innovative thinkers often thrive through action, pattern-spotting, and experimentation — and why traditional systems frequently fail to recognise these strengths.
This conversation is a powerful reminder that real change doesn’t start by fixing people — it starts by redesigning the systems around them.Tune in for a thoughtful, human exploration of brain diversity, leadership, and what it means to be an Agent of Change.
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