On this throwback episode from Shiny Things with Lisa Mitchell, I have not one, but two dating and relationships experts who happen to be married to each other after meeting on Match.com. Coaches Mark & Michaela Logue have an awesome story about how they met, how they got to where they are now, and how they are helping other people find love and healthy relationships in the digital dating space. They spend a lot of time unpacking the process of preparing yourself before you even post a profile and how to be intentional about owning what you really want from the very beginning.

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From the Archives of Lisa Mitchell's previous podcast: "Shiny Things with Lisa Mitchell":

Dating and forming relationships can seem like a complete mystery. But there is a science behind it and by understanding what the science tells us, we can better understand what to expect and more importantly, how to act in a way that moves us closer to our desired outcomes. On this episode Duana C. Welch PhD, author of the book Love Factually and founder of the blog LoveScience breaks down what the science tells us to help us be smarter and more clued in when dating and entering into a relationship.

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Two excellent communicators. Zero good dates. What is happening out there?

In the finale of this series, Lisa and Heather DeSiena bring the energy way up — because we're talking modern dating, and honestly, it's a lot. These are two women who are accomplished, self-aware, genuinely curious about other humans, and somehow still eating dinner alone. If that's relatable to you, pull up a chair.

In this episode:

• The false abundance mindset — why infinite swiping has trained everyone to never actually invest in anyone in front of them
• The upgrade trap: why "the next one might be better" is keeping everybody perpetually single and perpetually disappointed
• Why nobody asks questions anymore (and why a man who can hold a real conversation in real time is apparently a rare and endangered species)
• Sharp edges vs. soft energy — how building a career in male-dominated spaces quietly rewires how you show up on a first date
• "My standards are too high" — said by people whose marriages Lisa and Heather would absolutely not want
• A live, unscripted matchmaking pitch that you genuinely need to hear to believe

Fair warning: this episode gets a little silly toward the end. There is a Divorce Curious dating game show concept floated, referrals are solicited, and Lisa volunteers to personally vet all candidates. We are not joking. Drop your nominations in the comments.

This is the final episode of the three-part Heather DeSiena series — if you haven't listened to Parts 1 and 2 yet, go back. They're worth it.

And if this whole series has you doing some honest reflecting on your own relationship, grab Lisa's free Evaluate Your Relationship workbook at lisamitchell.biz/podcast. Good questions, zero judgment.

Connect with Heather: Instagram: @heatherdesciena LinkedIn: Heather DeSiena

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