What if security isn’t a number in your bank account but the self-trust to meet whatever comes? We open up about living a desire-led life, the paradox of wanting more while craving safety, and why “clean desire” matter and equal responsible choices, braver conversations, and structures that support the soul’s pull without blowing up your life.

We revisit the bedrock of yes/no clarity and how it reshaped the recent series on boundaries, self-love, sisterhood, and embodiment. From dismantling the myth that more is selfish to reframing security as the practice of backing yourself, we map the difference between reactive moves and intentional ones. Reactive energy can feel thrilling like rage, fear, and adrenaline. But it often leaves debris. Intentional moves create slow power, they compound; small aligned steps toward big desires like retirement wealth or strength through menopause. Responsibility becomes the hinge: you don’t wait to be skilled to claim it; you claim it and then skill, freedom, and real authority grow.

You’ll hear tangible practices—self-holding instead of self-punishment, using “research” to integrate slip-ups, and building calendars, budgets, and rituals that serve the deeper yes. We also share how opposite backgrounds and temperaments became our advantage, making room for both structure and savoring. The aim isn’t perfection; it’s coherence. Not just getting the thing, but becoming the person who can hold it with grace. This is the foundation for sustainability and capacity creation.

As we reflect on how a desire-led life is built through self-trust, responsibility, and the courage to want more even when culture says “enough.” Although we have opposite styles we meet in one practice: clean desire that favors calm power over reactivity and value who we become more than what we collect.

• origins of the podcast and our polarity as co‑hosts
• yes/no clarity as the foundation of desire
• redefining security through self‑trust not surplus
• clean desire and responsible action
• intentional choices versus reactive choices
• long‑game practices for money and health
• self‑holding as research instead of shame
• becoming over outcome and staying oriented to desire

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Ready or not, you’ve made it through the last 9 year cycle. We invite you to breathe into that truth, drop into your body, and walk a guided path through the arc from 2016 to 2025—closing loops, blessings, lessons, and letting desire shape a brighter 2026 with our guest Alee Reina Hoffman.

We move year by year turning memory into medicine. 2016 receives a hug for the brave beginner. 2017 becomes a scene watched with wisdom and compassion. 2018 asks which thoughts still serve. 2019’s gentle nudge at your back reorients you. In 2020, unseen support is revealed and thanked. 2021’s shadows lift as withheld truths take flight. 2022 celebrates a tiny yet pivotal moment returned to the heart. 2023 completes a dance with a partner, honoring what you learned and releasing the steps that no longer fit. 2024 opens the spine to possibility and grants permission to be bigger. 2025 sheds old skins that turn to stardust, lighting a path ahead.

Throughout this is an ongoing conversation with your deepest self. By the end, the years spiral into a glowing path toward 2026, and you stand present, clear, and resourced: what needed clearing is cleared, what needed receiving is with you now. If you’ve felt stuck in loops, this meditation reframes your timeline as a source of power, support, and direction.

Press play, pause where you need space, and let your body lead you forward. Send this to someone you love who’s closing a chapter.

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Ever feel like you were brave, did the “right” things, and still hit bottom? We dive into the anatomy of a nine year cycle—2016 to 2025—and why so many of us are feeling the urge to complete, cleanly. With author and Akashic Records guide Alee Reina Hoffman, we unpack how to receive a cycle instead of chasing the next milestone: honoring what really happened, metabolizing grief and disappointment, and allowing endings to end so you can start without residue.

Alee shares an unflinching personal story—career peaks, sudden illness from mold exposure, the death of her grandmother, and the shocking loss of her brother—and what decades of inner work are actually for when life doesn't go as planned. Control seeks outcomes; devotion builds capacity. That reframe changes how we meet desire, success, and connection when the world feels unprecedented. We also get practical: reflective writing that helps you “have” your life, touching artifacts and revisiting places to unlock memory, creating art so lessons can leave the body, and even short trips that reset perspective and show you what’s ready to be rearranged.

If you’re wondering where you are in a cycle, start with your body: Are you yearning, resting, or ready? Do trusted mirrors reflect a beginning, a middle, or an end? We talk about clarity before movement, why winter is for downloading the blueprint, and how forced change tends to dissolve while embodied change travels with you. One powerful sign of completion is neutrality—the moment your system no longer spikes, and the story becomes wisdom instead of a wound. From there, desire becomes clean again: the next right home, a partner who fits, a season centered on love.

Listen for grounded tools, honest stories, and a compassionate map for closing loops so you don’t repeat them.

We explore how to consciously close the 2016–2025 nine‑year cycle by receiving endings, reclaiming wisdom, and letting new desire take the lead. Alee Reina Hoffman shares hard-won insights on loss, timing, and how neutrality signals completion.

Get Alee’s book, Dark Times Catering, and follow her on Instagram.

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