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Deconstructor of Fun podcast is created by games professionals for games professionals. We explore the business side of the games industry with the goal of bringing listeners content that is relevant, insightful, and entertaining on a weekly basis. Hosts: Michail Katkoff www.linkedin.com/in/michailkatkoff/ Eric Kress www.linkedin.com/in/erickress/ Phillip Black www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-black-economist/ Jen Donahoe www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferdonahoeDeconstructor of Fun Science-fiction
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  • Inside New York Times Games: Why Killing 96% of New Ideas Is the Win
    Jul 6 2026

    Zoe Bell is the Executive Producer of Games at The New York Times. If you've played Wordle, Connections, Spelling Bee, Strands, Letter Boxed, the Mini, or the Crossword, you've played something she helped build or bring to life. NYT has nearly 13 million subscribers, which includes the game business that features some ads but no in-app purchases and no battle pass.The players run from your group chat to the Vatican. The Pope has mentioned doing the Wordle in interviews, and Carol Burnett's celebrity Wordle group, including Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Charlize Theron, went on Jimmy Kimmel to accuse her of cheating. Her defense: there's no way to cheat at Wordle, and solving it in one guess is just an accident.Zoe sits down with Jen Donahoe to explain how a newspaper that has run for 175 years became one of the biggest names in games. They get into why the team kills 96% of the games it tries, how a subscription model reshapes the way they design and measure success, and what it takes to launch Crossplay, a full multiplayer layer on games that are fundamentally solo.They also talk about making every puzzle by hand while the rest of the industry automates, and where AI earns a place when human craft is the whole point. For anyone building games, this one is a window into the economics and the discipline behind one of the most envied portfolios in the business.CHAPTERS:00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro01:03 From Zynga to Times03:40 Culture Shock at NYT05:53 Respecting Game Expertise07:36 Apps and Platforms10:13 Subscription Monetization14:13 Who Plays These Games18:31 Democratic Game Ideation21:13 Greenlight to Launch Pipeline24:36 Testing Markets and Kill Rate26:00 Killing Prototypes Fast26:37 Morale With Low Hit Rates28:43 Testing Before Soft Launch29:19 KPIs And Portfolio Fit30:31 UA In Subscription Games36:46 Streaks And Crossplay Bonds39:14 AI Human Puzzles First46:32 What’s Next And Submissions48:17 Hiring And Tech Stack

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    50 min
  • TWIG #390: Destiny Ends, Xbox's Biggest Layoff Ever, and Google Play's New Fee Chaos
    Jul 3 2026

    Destiny is dead, Xbox is about to make the largest layoff in gaming history, and Google Play just completely changed how it charges developers.In this episode, we break down:• Why Sony's $3.6B Bungie acquisition was doomed from the start• What Destiny's gradual player decline actually looked like on the data• Where hundreds of laid-off Bungie developers go from here• Which five Xbox studios are being closed or sold• Why Xbox raising the Series X to $750 might be the final nail in the coffin• The unionization debate: is now the worst time to organize?• Google Play's new fee structure explained • Why Kress thinks Apple and Google wasted 20 years of developer goodwill• How a 2-person team sold 10 million copies of Mecha Chameleon in 16 days with zero marketing spend• Why the Adidas x Brawl Stars collab may have just hurt Supercell's brand• Ubisoft's surprising new hire from Amazon GamesCHAPTERS:00:00 Mobile Giants Rant00:16 Show Intro and Agenda02:39 Soccer Sidetrack04:03 Quick Shills and Corrections07:04 Sony Cuts Bungie13:15 Destiny Trends and Mobile15:37 Where Talent Goes Next17:25 Xbox Layoffs Rumors19:51 Strategy Behind Closures26:03 Unionization Debate29:51 Xbox Price Hike Fallout33:21 Console Pricing Speculation34:24 Switch Sales And Price Hikes36:09 Google Play Changes Breakdown38:53 New Vs Existing Install Fees40:33 Web Billing And Rankings41:18 Why So Complicated44:08 Level Up Program Requirements45:26 Sidekick Overlay And Data46:24 Rollout Dates And Reactions49:20 Stores Value And 30 Percent53:22 Steam Viral Hit Mecha Chameleon55:49 VC Project Financing Debate58:50 Ubisoft Hires Amazon Games GM01:00:18 Adidas Brawl Stars Marketing Lesson01:03:30 Wrap Up And Next Topics

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    1 h et 5 min
  • Puzzle Monthly #4: $60M Marketing, $65M Revenue, What Happened to Good Job Games?
    Jun 29 2026

    In this episode of Puzzle Monthly, we trace Good Job Games' path from two clean exits to a struggling Match 3 launch, and break down why the studio that built Zen Match and sold its hypercasual portfolio for billions in downloads can't get Match Villains to monetize like Royal Match.


    Topics Covered:


    • Good Job Games' history, from hypercasual hits to Zenmatch's $100-150M exit

    • Wonder Blast and why it never escaped soft launch purgatory

    • Match Villains' aggressive difficulty curve and the push to shorten payback period

    • Why polish alone didn't save Match Villains, and what Royal Match actually got right

    • Royal Match vs Royal Kingdom vs Match Villains vs Piggy Kingdom

    • Whether Good Job Games is actually out of money, and what comes next


    CHAPTERS:


    00:01 - Intro

    00:40 - Good Job Games' History and Two Exits

    09:11 - Match Villains Launches with $83M Raised

    13:27 - Wonder Blast and the Soft Launch Trap

    19:41 - Match Villains Gameplay Breakdown

    21:58 - Aggressive Funnels and Payback Period Pressure

    30:31 - Royal Match vs Royal Kingdom vs Match Villains

    41:14 - Sensor Tower RPD Data Comparison

    47:56 - Is Good Job Games Running Out of Money

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    51 min
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