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  • From Side Hustle to Success: Reinventing with Integrity with Rachel Minion
    Mar 3 2026

    Summary


    In this conversation, Debra Bowers and Rachel Minion discuss the challenges and opportunities of building a business after a crisis, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, focus, and setting boundaries. Rachel shares her journey of reinvention, the cost of being authentic in business, and the significance of prioritizing tasks under pressure. They also explore the importance of understanding client needs, building demand, and the role of effective marketing in achieving sustainable growth.


    Takeaways


    • Building a business during a crisis is challenging, but the real work begins after.
    • Authenticity in marketing can lead to stronger client relationships.
    • Being direct and blunt can be a strength in business.
    • Setting boundaries is crucial for maintaining authenticity.
    • Prioritizing tasks helps in managing focus under pressure.
    • Understanding client needs is essential for effective marketing.
    • Sales should be viewed as a transfer of enthusiasm.
    • Buzzwords can distract from the core message of a business.
    • Building demand is a critical part of the sales cycle.
    • Leadership is about making a lasting impact.


    Chapters


    00:00 Reinvention After Crisis

    02:42 Authenticity in Business

    05:40 Navigating Corporate Politics

    08:25 The Cost of Authenticity

    11:21 Setting Boundaries in Business

    14:02 Prioritizing Focus Amidst Opportunities

    16:48 The Big Three: A Framework for Success

    19:56 Targeted Marketing Strategies

    22:35 Building Demand vs. Branding

    25:33 Creating Lasting Impact

    28:19 Conclusion and Key Takeaways


    Get Rachel's free resources

    Rockstarr Marketing Playbooks - available here: https://rockstarrandmoon.com/playbooks/


    Connect with Rachel here:

    rachel@rockstarrandmoon.com OR https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelminion


    Selling doesn’t have to feel uncomfortable, scripted, or “salesy.” The Human Sales Playbook is a practical, human-centered guide that helps professionals, entrepreneurs, and thought leaders communicate their value with clarity and confidence—without pressure, manipulation, or outdated sales tactics.Download Debra's Free Resource The Human Sales Playbook here: https://thegrowthvanguard.com/free-ebook


    If you learned something from this episode. If it changed how you look at marketing and leadership, please leave us a review. Like the episode and share with your friends.


    Until next time Stand Strong in Your Power, especially when it gets uncomfortable.


    Thank you for Listening!

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    37 min
  • The Surprising Power of Follow-Up That Builds Trust and Closes Deals with Wanda Allen
    Feb 17 2026

    Summary -

    In this episode, we dive deep into the art of follow-up with sales expert Wanda Allen. Follow-up is often seen as a daunting task, but Wanda reveals how it can be transformed into a powerful tool for building trust and closing deals. Through engaging stories and practical advice, she uncovers the emotional barriers that hold us back, such as the fear of rejection and the misconception of being pushy.

    Wanda shares her journey from struggling in sales to mastering the follow-up process, emphasizing the importance of confidence and professionalism. She explains how effective communication, whether through phone calls or voice messages, can create authentic connections that lead to lasting relationships and referrals.

    Key Topics:

    • The true purpose of follow-up: service, relationship, trust, and demand building
    • Common misconceptions about follow-up and how fear sabotages efforts
    • Emotional barriers: fear of rejection, pushiness, and how to reframe mindset
    • The importance of confidence and professionalism in follow-up communication
    • Effective strategies: phone calls vs emails, using voice messages, and multi-channel approaches
    • The role of systems and CRM tools to stay consistent and avoid burnout
    • Building and maintaining relationships post-sale to encourage repeat business and referrals
    • Practical tips for clear messaging, setting purpose, and asking for specific next steps
    • The importance of persistence: contact frequency and managing prospect response expectations
    • Personal stories: lessons learned from neglecting follow-up and turning failure into success

    Chapters -

    • 00:00 - Why follow-up is the most misunderstood part of sales
    • 00:42 - The real purpose of follow-up: service, trust, and demand building
    • 01:46 - Common misconceptions: follow-up as pressure or pushiness
    • 02:47 - How follow-up develops relationship and trust
    • 03:13 - Building demand and preparation through consistent follow-up
    • 04:43 - Emotional friction in follow-up: fear of rejection and pushiness
    • 05:12 - Overcoming the mindset barriers: reframing follow-up as opportunity
    • 06:27 - Why follow-up feels uncomfortable and how to shift perspective
    • 07:30 - The importance of accepting rejection and valuing referrals
    • 08:42 - Stories we tell ourselves that justify avoiding follow-up
    • 09:43 - The power of persistence even after a "no"
    • 10:52 - How building genuine relationships leads to future opportunities
    • 12:35 - The act of professional follow-up as a mark of integrity
    • 13:00 - Effective follow-up communication: the power of voice calls
    • 14:35 - Using voice messages and the pitfalls of over-automating
    • 16:32 - Multi-channel communication: respecting preferences and human connection
    • 18:21 - Keeping messages concise and impactful
    • 19:30 - Clarity in purpose: what to communicate in each follow-up
    • 21:34 - Building trust by asking for help and creating human touchpoints
    • 23:36 - The statistic: most sales occur after multiple contact attempts
    • 24:04 - The danger of quitting too early and losing pipeline momentum
    • 25:21 - The importance of relaunching relationships with warm contacts
    • 28:25 - How leadership perspectives shape follow-up strategies
    • 29:58 - Common mindset mistakes: neglecting follow-up as a priority
    • 32:09 - Balancing automation with genuine relationship-building
    • 33:12 - The value of relationship management beyond closing
    • 34:36 - Maintaining connections with past clients and referral sources
    • 37:19 - Resources and tools for mastering follow-up, including a free assessment and challenge
    • 37:48 - How to connect with Wanda for ongoing support and coaching
    • 38:29 - Free resource: The Human Sales Playbook to boost confidence and trust

    You can connect with Wanda and book a free follow-up assessment at https://www.followupsalesstrategies.com/

    And From Debra, our host: Selling doesn’t have to feel uncomfortable, scripted, or “salesy.” Download her free resource The Human Sales Playbook here: https://thegrowthvanguard.com/free-ebook

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    39 min
  • Why Chasing Visibility Is Dead—Focus on Demand and Trust Instead- with Debra Bowers
    Feb 10 2026

    Summary


    In this conversation, Debra Bowers discusses the critical role of trust in sales and marketing, emphasizing that demand building is essential for creating genuine connections with potential clients. She explores the concept of the trust gap, where visibility does not equate to demand, and outlines practical steps for building trust and demand through consistent messaging, resonating with the audience, and demonstrating care. Bowers also highlights the importance of patience in the sales process, as trust takes time to develop.


    Takeaways

    • Trust is essential for effective sales.
    • Demand building is about preparation, not just promotion.
    • Different buying personalities require different approaches to trust.
    • Visibility does not equal demand; real connections are necessary.
    • Sales is a transfer of trust, not just enthusiasm.
    • Consistency in messaging builds trust over time.
    • Resonating with your audience is crucial for demand building.
    • Proof of care is necessary to demonstrate genuine interest.
    • Stop chasing virality; focus on building familiarity.
    • Trust compounds over time; be patient in the sales process.


    Chapters

    00:00 - Why trust is the true currency in content marketing
    00:32 - Demand as preparation, not just promotion
    01:09 - The farming analogy for demand building
    02:11 - How to nurture relationships with prospects
    03:09 - The importance of patience and timing in demand building
    04:20 - Recognizing different buyer personality types and trust levels
    07:11 - The concept of the trust gap: attention vs. trust
    07:40 - Why visibility doesn’t equal demand
    09:07 - Listening for signs of the trust gap in your content performance
    10:33 - Symptoms of being in the trust gap and how to identify them
    12:01 - Building demand through trust: creating human connection
    13:00 - Transfer of enthusiasm and the role of genuine engagement
    14:50 - The three pillars of trust: consistency, resonance, proof of care
    18:47 - The importance of demonstrating care authentically
    19:19 - Actionable tips: shift from chasing virality to building familiarity
    20:17 - Speaking to the moments before the sale for better demand
    21:16 - Patience as a key factor in trust development

    Resources & Links:

    Find out More about Debra's work with Demand Building on Hexagon Media's website https://www.hexagonmedia.net

    If you’ve ever struggled to talk about what you do, avoided selling altogether, or felt anxious when money enters the conversation, this playbook will help you approach sales in a way that actually feels like you.

    Download the Human Sales Playbook https://www.thegrowthvanguard.com/free-ebookConnect with Debra Bowers:https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-bowers/

    https://www.instagram.com/debra444bowers/


    If you enjoyed our show, please leave us a review!


    We would love to hear from you! email us at Deals@dealswithheels.com


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    21 min
  • How Inner Freedom Is the Key to Unlocking True Leadership Potential-with Regina Huber
    Feb 3 2026

    Summary


    In this conversation, Debra Bowers and Regina Huber explore the intricate relationship between freedom and leadership. They discuss the costs associated with leadership, the illusion of freedom in entrepreneurship, and the importance of self-awareness and emotional intelligence. The dialogue emphasizes the need for vulnerability, the impact of childhood conditioning, and the significance of creating a supportive team environment. Ultimately, they highlight the role of energy and humanity in effective leadership.


    Takeaways


    • Many leaders appear successful but feel constrained inside.
    • Entrepreneurship can lead to new forms of imprisonment.
    • True freedom is an internal state, not just external circumstances.
    • Right and wrong are subjective; perspectives vary.
    • Self-awareness is crucial for effective leadership.
    • Vulnerability can empower leaders and teams.
    • Emotional regulation is key to personal growth.
    • Childhood conditioning affects adult emotional responses.
    • Creating a supportive team environment fosters collaboration.
    • Energy and authenticity are vital in leadership.


    Chapters


    00:00 The Cost of Freedom in Leadership

    02:44 Success Without Freedom: The Entrepreneurial Trap

    05:40 Inner Freedom vs. External Constraints

    08:32 The Illusion of Right and Wrong

    11:16 The Power of Perspective in Leadership

    13:58 Authenticity and Self-Awareness in Leadership

    16:34 Emotional Regulation and Leadership

    19:35 Freedom vs. Avoidance: Understanding Emotions

    22:15 The Impact of Childhood Experiences on Leadership

    25:03 Creating a Trusting Environment in Teams

    28:07 The Role of Energy in Leadership

    30:42 Humanity in Leadership: Embracing Imperfection

    33:31 Conclusion and Resources


    As the CEO of TRANSFORM YOUR PERFORMANCE, Transformational Leadership & Freedom Coach, Speaker and Author Regina Huber drives bold, heart-centered leadership. She helps her clients become THRIVING LEADERS with THRIVING TEAMS by leveling up their leadership of themselves and their teams, while keeping stress levels low and energy high.

    With eclectic experience on 5 continents, she guides her clients to recognize their own genius and potential, and to create the work and overall life that's right for them – while experiencing true freedom & power - in 4 languages.


    Get Regina's CREATE YOUR FREAKIN' AMAZING LIFE Template: https://transformyourperformance.com/freakinamazinglife

    Contact Regina https://transformyourperformance.com/sociallinks


    Learn more about our show on our website ⁠https://www.dealswithheels.com⁠Our Amazing host, Debra Bowers, offers strategy and media through her agency Hexagon Media. Find out more at ⁠https://www.hexagonmedia.net⁠Download the Human Sales PlaybookSelling doesn’t have to feel uncomfortable, scripted, or “salesy.” The Human Sales Playbook is a practical, human-centered guide for professionals, entrepreneurs, and thought leaders who want to communicate their value with confidence and integrity—without pressure or manipulation.Inside the playbook, you’ll learn how to:•Build confidence before sales conversations•Understand different buying personalities•Communicate your value clearly and simply•Create trust and connection that leads to natural yeses•Sell ideas, services, or expertise without feeling pushyDownload the playbook here:⁠ https://www.thegrowthvanguard.com/free-ebook⁠
    Thank you for Listening! Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave us a review!

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    38 min
  • The Transformative Power of Near-Death Experiences with Holly Porter
    Jan 27 2026

    Summary


    In this conversation, Debra Bowers and Holly Porter explore the profound changes in leadership and personal purpose that can arise from near-death experiences. Holly shares her journey through COVID-19, the lessons learned about resilience, and the importance of surrendering to one's true calling. They discuss the Shift Framework, which emphasizes surrender, hope, intuition, faith, and transformation as essential components of personal growth. The conversation highlights the responsibility that comes with influence and the importance of staying true to one's path while navigating life's challenges.


    Takeaways


    • Success is defined by happiness, not money.
    • Near-death experiences can lead to profound personal transformation.
    • It's okay to not be okay; vulnerability is a strength.
    • Family support is crucial during tough times.
    • Resilience is built through facing challenges head-on.
    • Surrendering control can lead to greater clarity and purpose.
    • Hope is a constant, even in the darkest times.
    • Intuition plays a key role in decision-making.
    • Focus on what you want, not what you fear.
    • Transformation requires both surrender and action.


    Chapters


    • 00:00:00 - Introduction and Guest Welcome
    • 00:03:00 - Defining Success and Leadership
    • 00:09:00 - Near-Death Experience and Insights
    • 00:18:00 - Surrender and Personal Growth
    • 00:27:00 - Intuition and Decision-Making
    • 00:36:00 - Resilience and Overcoming Adversity
    • 00:45:00 - Family, Faith, and Transformation
    • 00:54:00 - Conclusion and Contact Information

    Holly Porter is a powerhouse serial entrepreneur, retreat strategist, and the visionary founder of Retreat RnR. A 15-time best-selling author and award-winning speaker, Holly brings decades of experience in events, real estate, and personal transformation. She empowers purpose-driven leaders to design impactful retreats and step into their highest calling with purpose, presence, and passion.

    You can learn more about Holly on her website https://hollyporter.com/

    Reach out to Holly via email at holly@hollyporter.com


    We want to hear from you! Leave a comment about this episode!


    Learn more about our show on our website https://www.dealswithheels.com

    Our Amazing host, Debra Bowers, offers strategy and media through her agency Hexagon Media. Find out more at https://www.hexagonmedia.net



    Download the Human Sales Playbook

    Selling doesn’t have to feel uncomfortable, scripted, or“salesy.” The Human Sales Playbook is a practical, human-centered guidefor professionals, entrepreneurs, and thought leaders who want to communicatetheir value with confidence and integrity—without pressure or manipulation.

    Inside the playbook, you’ll learn how to:

    • Build confidence before sales conversations

    • Understand different buying personalities

    • Communicate your value clearly and simply

    • Create trust and connection that leads to natural yeses

    • Sell ideas, services, or expertise without feeling pushy

    Download the playbook here: https://www.thegrowthvanguard.com/free-ebook


    Please Like, Share and Subscribe to our Podcast!


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    40 min
  • Leading with Presence: A New Paradigm with Arlene Cohen-Miller
    Jan 20 2026

    ## Summary

    In this episode of "Deals with Heals," host Debra Bowers engages in a profound conversation with Arlene Cohen Miller, an attorney and coach, about negotiating and leading from presence rather than pressure. They explore the challenges women face in maintaining strong boundaries without guilt and accessing real power without disconnecting from their authentic selves. Arlene shares her journey from law to coaching, emphasizing the importance of active listening and presence in both personal and professional relationships. The discussion delves into societal conditioning, the inner critic, and the significance of self-care and self-love in leadership.


    Takeaways

    • Negotiate and lead from presence, not pressure.

    • Strong boundaries can be maintained without guilt.

    • Real power comes from authenticity, not disconnection.

    • Active listening transforms relationships.

    • Societal conditioning affects women's leadership styles.

    • Self-care and self-love are crucial for effective leadership.

    • The inner critic can be turned into an inner coach.

    • Women can support each other by modeling positive behavior.

    • Fear-based boundaries differ from strength-based ones.

    • Awareness and self-reflection are key to personal growth.

    Chapters

    • 00:00:00 Introduction to Deals with Heals

    • 00:00:00 Negotiating from Presence

    • 00:00:00 Journey from Law to Coaching

    • 00:00:00 Societal Conditioning and Leadership

    • 00:00:01 The Inner Critic and Self-Care

    • 00:00:01 Empowering Women through Support

    To find out more about Arlene's Motivational Talk and Workshops - Negotiating from the Heart: A New Path to Confidence, Clarity & Calm Assurance Visit her website https://www.jewelconsultancy.com/

    Reach out to Arlene at 720-936.2634

    arlene1@jewelconsultancy.com

    Learn more about our show and our Amazing Host, Debra Bowers on our website https://www.dealswithheels.comFind out more about Debra's marketing services on Hexagon Media's website https://www.hexagonmedia.net

    Download the Human Sales Playbook

    Selling doesn’t have to feel uncomfortable, scripted, or “salesy.” The Human Sales Playbook is a practical, human-centered guide for professionals, entrepreneurs, and thought leaders who want to communicate their value with confidence and integrity—without pressure or manipulation.

    Inside the playbook, you’ll learn how to:

    • Build confidence before sales conversations

    • Understand different buying personalities

    • Communicate your value clearly and simply

    • Create trust and connection that leads to natural yeses

    • Sell ideas, services, or expertise without feeling pushy

    Download here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MCXvSt6432T52j1BCbAV0htMJnj14OcG/view?usp=drive_linkThank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review.

    The Best way to Support our podcast is to share, tell your friends, like and subscribe! One small act from you can make a big difference!

    Thank you!

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    41 min
  • Standing Strong: 100 Episodes of Empowerment and Growth
    Jan 15 2026

    Summary


    In this reflective episode of Deals with Heels, host Debra Bowers celebrates the 100th episode by sharing her journey of empowerment, the challenges faced, and the lessons learned along the way. She emphasizes the importance of finding one's voice, the non-linear nature of growth, and the significance of community and support in personal and professional development. As she looks ahead to Season Five, Debra expresses gratitude for the journey and the connections made, while encouraging listeners to stand strong in their power.


    Takeaways


    • Debra started Deals with Heels to create space for women's conversations.
    • The journey of empowerment often begins before one feels ready.
    • Growth is not a linear process; it can be messy and challenging.
    • Finding your power is a continuous journey, not a one-time event.
    • Each episode of the podcast has taught Debra valuable lessons.
    • The podcast has evolved into a platform for women to share their stories.
    • Building connections can lead to new ventures and opportunities.
    • Sales should be about authentic connection and enthusiasm.
    • The 100th episode marks the beginning of a deeper journey.
    • Gratitude for the journey is essential, even through challenges.


    Chapters

    00:00 Celebrating 100 Episodes: A Journey of Empowerment

    02:50 Finding Your Voice: The Birth of Deals with Heels

    05:25 Overcoming Challenges: The Solo Journey Begins

    08:33 Growth Isn't Linear: Embracing the Messy Path

    11:07 Lessons from 100 Episodes: Insights and Patterns

    13:31 The Evolution of Leadership: Humanity in Business

    16:26 The Growth Vanguard: A New Chapter Begins

    19:12 Gratitude and Reflection: The Power of Community

    21:58 Looking Ahead: Season Five and Beyond


    If you are ready to grow in a more meaningful way, check out The Growth Vanguard's website. ⁠https://thegrowthvanguard.com⁠

    To learn more about our show and our Amazing Host Debra Bowers visit our website ⁠https://dealswithheels.com⁠

    To find out more about Debra's marketing services visit her Agency website ⁠https://www.hexagonmedia.net⁠

    Thank you for joining us. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review. Reviews help us grow!

    Please Like our show and help us grow!

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    33 min
  • From Invisible to Invincible: Embracing Your True Self with Joy Rowland
    Jan 6 2026
    SummaryIn this enlightening conversation, Debra Bowers and Joy Rowland explore the themes of visibility, confidence, and personal growth for women. Joy shares her journey from poverty in Nigeria to becoming a successful visibility mentor, emphasizing the importance of overcoming childhood trauma and finding one's voice. They discuss the power of authenticity, the role of AI in enhancing visibility, and the necessity of reframing rejection as a stepping stone to success. The conversation culminates in the importance of self-love and trust as foundational elements for women to thrive in their personal and professional lives.TakeawaysThe journey to visibility often starts with overcoming childhood trauma.Many women struggle with finding their voice due to societal conditioning.Authenticity is key to attracting clients and building connections.Rejection should be reframed as a valuable learning experience.Self-trust is built through taking action and facing challenges.Women often hold back due to fear of judgment from others.AI can enhance authenticity by providing factual perspectives.Falling in love with oneself is crucial for personal growth.Visibility is not about ego; it's about sharing one's truth.Embracing struggles is essential for growth and evolution.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Visibility and Confidence01:14 Joy's Immigrant Journey and Self-Discovery03:21 Finding Your Voice and Purpose04:47 The Impact of Childhood Trauma on Women's Confidence08:26 Overcoming Societal Expectations and Embracing Authenticity11:56 The Importance of Self-Love and Acceptance13:45 Visibility vs. Ego: Understanding Authenticity16:11 The Role of Authenticity in Attracting Clients17:54 Using AI to Gain Perspective on Self-Worth23:52 Rejoicing in Rejection and Building Resilience27:09 Building Self-Trust Through Action35:21 The First Step to Courage: Self-LoveOffers from Joy - Download my free $10k Months Calculator to get crystal clear on exactly what to sell, how many clients you need, and where your focus should be to create consistent, scalable income — even with a tiny audience.Whether you're selling 1:1, group programs, or digital offers, this simple yet powerful tool breaks down your income goals into real, actionable numbers so you can stop spinning your wheels and start selling with clarity and confidence.👉 Grab it free at: explore.joyrowland.com/10k-months-calculatorConnect with Joy on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/joy.rowland_/Learn more about our show and our Amazing host Debra Bowers on our website https://www.dealswithheels.comDebra's Marketing agency Hexagon Media can Help you grow your business. Learn more at https://www.hexagonmedia.netDownload the The Human Sales Playbook and learn how to sell without being pushy or sounding "salesy" https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MCXvSt6432T52j1BCbAV0htMJnj14OcG/view?usp=drive_linkConnect with Debra on Social Mediahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-bowers/https://www.linkedin.com/company/97414604/admin/dashboard/https://www.instagram.com/debra444bowers/If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review! You can support our show by Liking, Sharing and Subscribing! Thank you for listening!
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    38 min