In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with Martha Bardwell, pastor of Our Saviour's Lutheran Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota, on how faith communities are responding to ICE violence in the Twin Cities and the ICE killing of Renee Good. Watch a video version of this latest conversation here.

The episode includes a discussion on the misuse of Bible verses by the Department of Homeland Security. As this was being recorded, DHS released another propaganda video co-opting a Bible verse. Bardwell is among the faith leaders calling for an economic blackout on Jan. 23.

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This episode of Dangerous Dogma features a conversation between Word&Way Editor Brian Kaylor, Lutheran minister and journalist Angela Denker, and Disciples pastor and author Beau Underwood. The conversation includes consideration of the U.S. attack on Venezuela and how Christians are responding, Pete Hegseth's pledge to change the military chaplaincy program, and how people are now betting on the return of Jesus and pretty much everything else in life. You can watch a video version of the conversation here.

Here are a few pieces related to the episode:

• Brian wrote at A Public Witness about Christian responses to the U.S. attack on Venezuela.
• The Bulwark unpacked problems with Hegseth's criticism of the military chaplaincy program.
• Brian documented Hegseth's Christian prayer services at the Pentagon.
• People have been betting on the return of Jesus.

Also, check out the most recent books by the three panelists:

• Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power
• Angela Denker, Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood
• Beau Underwood (with Brian Kaylor), Baptizing America How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism

This episode of Dangerous Dogma features a conversation between Word&Way Editor Brian Kaylor, Lutheran minister and journalist Angela Denker, and Disciples pastor and author Beau Underwood. The conversation includes consideration of U.S. strikes against Venezuelan boats, Pete Hegseth's Christian prayer services at the Pentagon, the use of AI in churches, and alarms about AI Christian music and books. You can watch a video version of the conversation here.

Here are a few pieces mentioned in the episode:

• Brian wrote a piece for A Public Witness about the prayer services at the Pentagon.
• Ross Douthat of the New York Times wrote about Hegseth and Christian Nationalism.
• People can now text with AI Jesus.
• Christianity Today wrote about a hit AI Christian artist.
• Brian created a video review of a Noah's ark children's book voiced by an AI Donald Trump.

Also, check out the most recent books by the three panelists:

• Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power
• Angela Denker, Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood
• Beau Underwood (with Brian Kaylor), Baptizing America How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism