Ever wonder why cybercrime feels like it has better customer service than your cable provider? You're not alone!

In this episode of Cyber After Hours—The Rise of Cybercrime as a Service and How to Combat It—Paul and Evan are joined by their guest, Rob Davis, SVP and Head of Digital Identity Services at Citizens, share an eye-opening (and occasionally jaw-dropping) look at how cybercriminals have turned hacking into a neatly packaged, subscription-based business model.

Yes, cybercrime even has its own version of Amazon Prime—minus the taxes.

Starting off with casual chat about hobbies like 3D printing, the conversation quickly shifts into serious territory, unpacking the disturbing economics behind cybercrime and why simply throwing money at the problem won’t solve it.

Evan, Paul, and Rob explain how criminal syndicates operate like legitimate companies—complete with customer service departments, SLAs, and marketing strategies.

But don't despair just yet.

They also dive into practical strategies businesses can use to disrupt these criminal networks, emphasizing proactive defense, innovative tools like AI-driven bots, and the importance of incident response over the illusion of perfect security.

This episode highlights why cybersecurity resilience isn't just about defense—it's about understanding how attackers think and staying one step ahead.

It’s a call to action for collective international efforts to dismantle cybercrime infrastructures and reduce their profitability.

Tune in, grab your favorite beverage, and get ready to rethink cybersecurity—because protecting your business from cyber threats shouldn't be harder than canceling a gym membership.

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Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/

Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pm01/

Ever wonder if those dusty legacy systems you’ve been ignoring are one breach away from disaster?

In Episode 29 of Cyber After Hours—titled “How to Secure Legacy Systems in a Modern World?”—co-hosts Evan Morgan and Paul Marco dig into the tough questions around outdated tech.

They talk about everything from finding the right work-life balance (and when it’s time to ask for help) to why “if you’re not learning or earning, it might be time to quit.”

Along the way, they highlight how hiring the right people can supercharge a team and how shifting to modern platforms—like SaaS—can help you ditch the security risks of old systems.

They also take a deeper look at the cultural hurdles that keep organizations from truly moving forward, reminding us that staying stuck on aging infrastructure can be just as costly as making the leap to new solutions.

With Windows 10 hitting end of support soon, risk management is no longer an option; it’s a necessity.

Throughout the episode, you’ll hear practical advice on communicating real-world risks to business leaders, plus candid insights on how to continuously manage—and mitigate—those risks.

Tune in, join the conversation, and learn why legacy systems may not be worth the gamble in today’s fast-paced cybersecurity landscape.

After all, if you’re not evolving, you might just be standing in the path of the next big threat.

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Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/

Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pm01/

Ever felt like the pandemic was one massive, global disaster recovery test?

You're not alone.

In this episode of Cyber After Hours—Securing Remote Workforces: Lessons from the Pandemic—Paul and Evan are joined by their guest, John Vigeant, Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Login VSI, to dive into how the world of cybersecurity (and office life itself!) changed almost overnight.

Starting with candid chats about the emotional roller coaster of pandemic-era decision-making, they quickly explore how remote work permanently shifted the way we think about hiring, collaboration, and trust.

From rapid-fire adoption of video conferencing and cloud tech, to navigating tricky trust issues and management pitfalls (spoiler: micromanaging didn't win anyone manager of the year), the duo reflects on why focusing on employee output—not just presence—became more important than ever.

They also discuss how organizations struggled with cybersecurity investments, bouncing between overkill and bare-minimum approaches.

And speaking of struggles, the episode highlights how essential flexibility, strategic team gatherings, and prioritizing employee well-being are for long-term loyalty and success.

Whether you’re leading teams, navigating remote life, or securing your digital workspace, join Paul and Evan as they unpack valuable pandemic lessons with humor, honesty, and a dash of cyber wisdom.

Pour a drink, settle in, and tune in to Cyber After Hours—where we turn tough lessons into valuable insights (and occasionally laugh at our own missteps).

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Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/

Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pm01/