Chief and Ms Dava discuss the difference between core values and corps values, and how they affect each other in organizations, with Chief explaining that core values come from the heart and are emotional/spiritual in nature, while corps values are applied by the organization based on its core values. Chief suggests that organizations should regularly revisit their core values at least once a year to ensure they remain relevant.

Ms Dava shares some GREAT news before she and Chief discuss the possible issues that personality tests can have if they lead to developing stereotypes. Chief shares an exercise about stereotyping using cadets at the Air Force Academy to demonstrate how personality tests and stereotypes can lead to unfair treatment of individuals. They discuss the importance of treating people as unique individuals rather than fitting them into personality types, with Chief emphasizing that effective leaders lead persons rather than people.

Chief and Ms Dava discuss personality types and leadership, with Chief sharing his experience as a certified MBTI practitioner. They explore how personality tests like MBTI can help leaders understand individual preferences, but warn against stereotyping people based on their results. Ms Dava shares examples from her work at a camp where she uses personality tests to better understand and manage her diverse staff. Chief emphasizes the importance of treating each person as an individual rather than fitting them into stereotypes, and discusses how effective leaders need to be flexible and adapt their leadership styles to different personalities.