Peyton Jones sits down with theologian, historian, and mission scholar Dr. Howard Snyder for a wide-ranging conversation on the gospel, the Kingdom of God, and what it truly means to follow Jesus in a fractured world. Drawing from his newest and most ambitious work, Consider the Lilies: How Jesus Saves People and the Land, Snyder challenges the Church to recover a fuller, more biblical vision of salvation—one that includes not only people, but creation itself.

In this episode, Dr. Snyder explains why much of modern theology has become “too small,” how Scripture reveals God’s covenant not only with humanity but with the land, and why Jesus’ mission cannot be reduced to escaping the world rather than renewing it. The conversation explores discipleship, church planting, justice, stewardship, culture, and why the Church must be prepared to speak faithfully into the decades ahead.

For church planters, pastors, and leaders wrestling with the divide between the spiritual and the tangible, this episode offers a compelling framework for understanding the Kingdom of God as both deeply biblical and urgently relevant for our time.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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Joshua Brown—known as the Pressure Washing Pastor—joins Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell for one of the most compelling conversations the Church Planter Podcast has had in a long time. From a traumatic childhood and growing up without a father, to burnout in vocational ministry, to building a multi-million-dollar pressure washing business as a platform for disciple-making, Joshua shares a raw, redemptive story of identity, calling, and obedience.

In this episode, Joshua unpacks how marketplace ministry became a powerful context for evangelism, discipleship, and leadership development—training young people, forming character before competency, and multiplying leaders outside the walls of the church. The conversation explores co-vocational ministry, service-based businesses, and why pressure washing (of all things) has become a surprisingly effective tool for mission.

If you’re a church planter wrestling with sustainability, burnout, or how to mobilize disciples beyond Sunday services, this episode will stretch your imagination and challenge your assumptions about what ministry can look like today.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Pressure Washing Pastor
• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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People leave church plants...and it’s not always a bad thing. In this honest conversation, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell talk about why people leave, how leaders often take it personally, and why a healthy send-off matters more than trying to hold people tightly. Along the way, they address the dangers of platform-first leadership, social media posturing, and why character (not notoriety) is what sustains long-term gospel impact.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

Thanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.

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