In this episode, the Peyton & Pete kicks things off reminiscing about the early days of The Church Planter Podcast before diving into one of the most practical topics for planters today: how and where to meet.

Peyton unpacks his current church plant journey and explores creative ways to gather—whether in homes, co-working spaces, or even pubs. Together, he and Pete talk about balancing depth and width in ministry, why mission should shape your model, and how old rhythms like weekly communion can bring new life to a community on mission.

If you’ve ever wondered how to grow beyond your living room without losing authenticity—or how to make disciples in the middle of your neighborhood’s everyday spaces—this conversation will give you plenty to think about (and laugh about).

Highlights include:

• Why consistency matters more than ever in podcasting and pastoring
• Peyton’s vision for churches meeting in shared workspace
• The real-world costs of renting schools and community centers
• Blending centralized gatherings with scattered micro-churches
• Taking communion seriously in every setting
• A reminder that the mission always dictates the model

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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In this powerful conversation, Peyton Jones sits down with Christian Mungai, Global Movement Pastor at Mariners Church and author of People Are the Wealth, to explore how the global landscape of missions is shifting — and why that’s good news for the Church.

Born in Kenya and now serving in California, Christian shares his remarkable family story that traces the full circle of missions: from the Scottish missionaries who reached his grandfather to his own call as a missionary to North America. Together, he and Peyton unpack how the center of Christianity has moved to the Global South, what that means for Western churches, and how a new era of interdependent mission is emerging.

They discuss the African proverb behind his book title — “Money can make you rich, but only people make you wealthy” — and why relationships, not results, are the true measure of ministry. You’ll also hear the surprising story of how Mariners Church adopted Kenya’s Mizizi discipleship process, transforming it into Rooted, now used by thousands of churches worldwide.

This episode challenges every leader to rethink mission as collaboration rather than conquest, to trade independence for interdependence, and to rediscover what it means to love people as the greatest wealth of all.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

Thanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.

Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

In this episode, Chestly Lunday sits down with Carey Nieuwhof — pastor, author, and host of The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast — to talk about how churches and leaders can stay healthy and innovative in a rapidly changing world.

Carey unpacks why most great ideas have a five-to-seven-year shelf life, how leaders can navigate the “second S-curve” without losing their identity, and why humility and curiosity are key to long-term influence. They dive into the future of church models — from micro-expressions to digital communities — and explore how to build platforms that serve a mission instead of egos.

Whether you’re a pastor, entrepreneur, or digital innovator, this conversation will challenge you to rethink what growth, character, and calling look like in the new era of church leadership.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

Thanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.

Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.