In this special combined episode, Andy & Jayne explore the intersection between spiritual healing, mental health, and entity attachment, following their recent in-depth interview with researcher and retired psychiatric professional Jerry Marzinsky.

Andy and Jayne start by sharing their own spiritual journey, from sceptical beginnings to encountering negative entities, voices, and energetic disturbances that pushed them into their current line of work. They highlight how little practical information exists for people facing spiritual interference and why common protection methods like sage aren’t enough.

The discussion moves into Jerry’s background working in psychiatric hospitals and prisons, where he observed consistent patterns in schizophrenic “voices.” Unlike mainstream psychiatry, which labels these hallucinations as caused by a chemical imbalance, Jerry concluded that many voices are external parasitic entities feeding on trauma and emotional distress.

Jerry explains the MACE protocol, which addresses core trauma to weaken the entities' influence. Andy & Jerry agree to collaborate: Jerry focuses on trauma clearing, while Andy specialises in spiritual entity removal. This combined approach echoes earlier work with Dr. Terrence Palmer PhD and offers a promising alternative to medication-only mental health models.

Andy & Jayne discuss how entities drain energy, isolate their hosts, and plant negative thoughts, especially during vulnerable times like 3–4 AM. Trauma, drugs, and emotional instability weaken energetic boundaries, making people more susceptible. Spiritual sovereignty, maintaining strong energetic boundaries, is emphasised as an essential daily practice, not a one-time event. They introduce their 6-Week Meditation & Protection Journey launching January 6 to help people build this resilience.

Chen answers audience questions on narcissism, entity attachment, intuitive sensitivity, Ouija boards, energy protection, anxiety points, and multidimensional beings like the Pleiadians, describing them as positive higher-frequency groups assisting Earth within spiritual laws. He also acknowledges figures like Jerry and Dr. Palmer PhD, validating the growing bridge between psychiatry and spirituality.


Key Insights
Many schizophrenia “voices” behave like external parasitic entities, not hallucinations.
Trauma and substance use weaken energetic boundaries, increasing vulnerability.
Daily spiritual sovereignty and protection practices are essential.
Collaboration between trauma-clearing (MACE) and spiritual entity removal offers powerful results.

What Can Be Done for People with Schizophrenia?
The episode offers hope for those suffering from schizophrenia or hearing voices:
Clear the underlying trauma using methods like the MACE protocol, which removes emotional wounds that entities feed on.
Remove spiritual attachments/entities, which often reduces or eliminates the voices entirely.
Strengthen their energy field daily through meditation, grounding, protection practices, and emotional regulation.
Avoid substances (especially alcohol and drugs) that weaken boundaries and invite further interference.
Provide ongoing support, as healing schizophrenia often requires both trauma clearing and spiritual clearing together.

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