In this episode of the Business of Coaching Workshop, host Andrew Jackson sits down with legendary strength coach Zach Even-Esh for a wide-ranging conversation about what it really takes to build a long coaching career—without losing your identity or chasing every new trend.
Zach shares lessons from over two decades as a coach, gym owner, educator, and content creator—from starting in his parents' basement to building Underground Strength into a respected brand. Together, they explore how coaches can adapt to changing markets and technology while staying grounded in what they actually believe about training, coaching, and leadership.
This episode goes far beyond programming and tactics. It's about creativity, mentorship, authenticity, and why the best coaches resist the pressure to "play the algorithm" or copy what everyone else is doing.
Whether you're a young coach trying to find your voice or a seasoned professional navigating burnout and change, this conversation offers timeless guidance for building a coaching career that lasts.
What You'll Learn
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Why chasing trends eventually kills creativity and confidence
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How to stay true to your coaching philosophy as the industry changes
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The difference between adapting and selling out
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Why most successful coaches don't copy what others are doing
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How mentorship and apprenticeship shape long-term coaching success
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What Zach's longevity reveals about sustainable coaching careers
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Why identity matters more than tactics in business and coaching
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How online coaching can coexist with in-person impact
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The role of creativity, boredom, and focus in great coaching
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Why strength training still resonates deeply—especially with men and dads
Timestamps
00:00 – Welcome & Zach Even-Esh introduction
03:45 – From the basement to Underground Strength
07:40 – Why coaching trends keep changing
11:30 – Staying authentic as the industry evolves
16:20 – The danger of copying other coaches
20:45 – Creativity, boredom, and losing focus
25:30 – Old-school strength vs modern fitness culture
31:00 – Coaching identity and resisting the algorithm
36:10 – Online coaching, in-person coaching, and longevity
41:50 – Mentorship, apprenticeships, and learning the craft
47:20 – Coaching experience vs perfect programming
52:10 – Why strength training changes lives beyond the gym
57:10 – Where to find Zach's work and resources
59:30 – Closing thoughts & TurnKey Coach mention
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