On Episode 3 of Reasonable Talk, Amanda Jarvis, along with Jerod Jarvis and Pastor Chris Martin, interviews guest Brian Sayers, director of Faith Biblical Counseling Center and associate pastor at Faith Bible Church.

Brian shares his journey in pastoral ministry and the importance he discovered in Biblical counseling training.

Implementing biblical counseling training in churches builds a shared language for addressing life’s challenges, such as anger, anxiety, depression, trauma, and more.

Brian also emphasizes how the counseling approach fosters deeper conversations and support throughout the church community, from small groups to larger gatherings.

Resources mentioned in today's episode:

ACBC website

Spokane Christian Counseling Center

Valley Biblical Counseling Center

Topics and Timestamps:

Guest Introductions and Background (Brian Sayers’ journey, counseling training) – [0:02:24]

Theological Foundations: Sufficiency of Scripture, Counseling’s Impact – [0:05:34]

Counseling Culture Formation and Program Growth at Faith Bible Church – [0:07:39]

Resistance to Counseling Approaches, Shifts in Practice – [0:13:27]

How Counseling Ministry Functions at Faith Bible Church – [0:24:55]

Formal vs. Informal Counseling, Role of Lay Leaders – [0:30:05]

Practical Equipping, “Counseling with the End in View” – [0:33:15]

Skills for Group Leaders (noticing and addressing issues) – [0:35:43]

Children’s Counseling Ministry at FBC– [0:37:44]

Parental Involvement, Transparency in Counseling for Kids – [0:42:09]

Church Culture Shift, Generational Change, and Discipleship – [0:44:47]

Ongoing Projects, Conferences, and Prayer Requests (Brian Sayers) – [0:47:35]

Closing Remarks – [0:49:01]