What if the real risk in business isn’t failure but staying comfortable for too long? In this episode, we sit down with power couple Brandon and Michelle Barber to unpack what happens when certainty disappears, systems collapse, and entrepreneurs are forced to pivot or be left behind.

For more than 25 years, they’ve coached over one million people, created 100+ courses, generated $10M+ in revenue, and led hundreds of live events. But when COVID erased their entire in-person business model overnight, they had to confront a hard truth no system lasts forever.

In this conversation, Brandon and Michelle share the behind-the-scenes reality of rebuilding from scratch. They talk about surviving business plateaus, pivoting from live events to virtual programs, shrinking overhead without shrinking impact, and why adaptability is now a non-negotiable skill for entrepreneurs.

They also dive into what it’s like building a business as a married couple, the importance of masculine and feminine balance in leadership, and why creating courses isn’t just about income it’s about legacy. From automating evergreen programs to teaching others how to package their knowledge, they explain why they believe there’s a course inside everyone.

This episode is for entrepreneurs who feel stretched, stuck, or quietly wondering if there’s another way. It’s a reminder that discomfort often precedes clarity and that freedom is built through contribution, not comfort.

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