Bots With Wallets: What Could Possibly Go Right? feat. Jansen Tang from Virtuals
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In this episode of CDPod, we're joined by Jansen Teng, co-founder of Virtuals Protocol, to break down the emergence of wallet-enabled AI agents, why crypto is the missing piece for real autonomy, and how tokenization creates new ways for people to benefit from agent-driven economies.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:26 - Introducing Jansen Tang from Virtuals Protocol
03:27 - From gaming DAO to Roblox autonomous NPCs
04:01 - Expanding into entertainment and TikTok agents
06:39 - Giving agents agency, goals, and memory
11:01 - Launching Luna as tokenized TikTok influencer
13:54 - Luna’s market cap rise, inspiring other agents
16:00 - Different schools of thought in AI
20:08 - How agents interact with each other
24:00 - Problems faced: information loss
25:05 - How blockchain solves information loss
29:40 - Agent economy stack and ACP’s role
30:39 - x402 enabling agent payments and wallets
32:33 - Combining tools, agents, and x402
32:59 - What agents do on ACP today
35:55 - Information agents like AIXBT
36:41 - Personal finance agents
38:08 - Current adoption: human users and trading wallets
40:07 - Making agents richer via products, services, attention
42:09 - Robotics gaps: data and real‑world testing spaces
44:11 - Closing, ending questions
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