While David is away, we are reposting some early days Blue City Blues episodes that many of our more recent listeners may have missed. We thought this one, with author and cultural critic Freddie DeBoer, was a great conversation on a topic that remains timely. We'll be back with fresh episodes shortly:

Freddie DeBoer knows a thing or two about mental illness. He’s been admitted into psychiatric hospitals five times; he was involuntarily committed in 2002. He has, as they say, lived experience.

Freddie is also one of our most original and independent commentators on American cultural trends. A self-described Marxist and a cogent critic of recent ideological turns within blue city progressive culture, he has written extensively, with clarity and passion and urgency, about why the idea of involuntary commitment of the severely mentally ill has long been a third rail in progressive blue city politics, and why that needs to change.

We asked Freddie on to make his case for reforming our laws and procedures, and also our attitudes, about how to address the problem of the mentally ill suffering on blue city streets. And to discuss why the disability rights community has gotten this issue so wrong.

"If the left does not have a vision for how to solve these problems, then the people will elect strong men who will come in and do it in a worse way," he told us.

Our editor is Quinn Waller.

Outside References:

Freddie DeBoer, "Psychotic Disorders Do Not Respect Autonomy, Independence, Agency or Freedom," Substack (Freddie DeBoer), May 24, 2023

Freddie DeBoer, "The Case for Forcing the Mentally Ill into Treatment," New York, June 20, 2024

Freddie DeBoer, "'Well I Don't Know About This Involuntary treatment Business!' He Said, Stepping into the Safety of a Closed Tab," Substack (Freddie DeBoer), July 3, 2024

Freddie DeBoer, "You Call that Compassion?" Substack (Freddie DeBoer), Aug. 5, 2024

Freddie DeBoer, "What Is Freedom for the Mentally Ill?" City Journal, Dec. 2, 2024

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In 1955, three men in the bohemian enclave of Greenwich Village got together to form what they thought would be a local community newspaper. But the Village Voice would soon morph into the voice of the city’s political outsiders and cultural dissidents as it became the progenitor of a new genre of journalistic outlet – the alternative newsweekly – and a new style of engaged, inside out journalism that rejected the antiseptic detachment of traditional post-war newspapers. The model pioneered by the Voice spread rapidly across the country, and alt weeklies became a ubiquitous fixture in the media landscapes of large American cities in the second half of the 20th century.

Tricia Romano, our guest on this BCB episode, spent eight years as a writer and columnist for the Village Voice in the late ‘90s and early ‘00s. She is the author of The Freaks Came Out to Write, a sweeping, magisterial oral history of the original, and most storied, of the alts. Over its 88 chapters and 572 pages, Romano’s definitive account weaves together more than 200 interviews to tell the inside story of the paper that radically remade a large corner of the American journalism world in its own image.

With David away, Sandeep and Tricia discuss the epic factional ideological battles and the soap operatic personality clashes between legendary writers – Hentoff, Christgau, Gornick, Musto, Crouch, Brownmiller, Whitehead and so many others – that shaped the Voice’s quarrelsome and often overwrought internal office politics. But we also explore how the Voice became not just the chronicler, but the nurturer and the advocate, of a series of once fringe subcultures and artistic movements that fundamentally changed not just New York City but blue city cosmopolitanism more broadly. Experimental theater, radical feminism, hippie bohemianism, avant garde film, gay liberation, hip hop, all were catapulted from the social fringes to the city’s cultural mainstream by the early and loving attention of the Voice, Romano says.

We dive into the series of colorful owners -- including Rupert Murdoch, the founder of Fox News -- and editors who shaped the paper in its heyday and discuss how the Voice lost its distinctiveness in the ‘90s as once stodgy mainstream papers like the New York Times aped its concerns and poached its writers, and once the rise of the internet stole away its classified ads cash cow. And finally we lament how it finally began to unravel into its current hollowed out husk when the owners of the New Times chain of weeklies bought the Voice in 2005 and rapidly stripped it of its countercultural cool. We close by talking about how the latter day fracturing and fragmentation of our online subcultures cries out for a cohering voice of the sort that alt newspapers like the Voice once provided.

Our editor is Quinn Waller.

Outside sources:

Tricia Romano, The Freaks Came Out to Write: The Definitive History of the Village Voice, the Radical Paper that Changed American Culture (2024).

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The pervasiveness of untreated mental illness on the streets of blue cities – about 20 percent of the homeless population in the United States is severely mentally ill – is a glaring feature of the urban landscape. So we invited sociologist Neil Gong, the author of an eye-opening book, Sons, Daughters and Sidewalk Psychotics: Mental Illness and Homelessness in Los Angeles, to join us on this latest BCB episode to talk about his observations of how class dynamics drive radically different social expectations of how to address this problem.

Gong spent years observing public outreach and treatment efforts directed at the mentally ill in Los Angeles, first with the homeless on the gritty streets of Skid Row, and then in the city's tony private pay clinics where wealthy families sent their mentally ill relatives. His book insightfully unpacks the complicated – and often counterintuitive – ways that social inequality shapes not only how we address, but also how we think about, mental illness in urban America.

We dig in with Gong on the “two different worlds” that exist in LA for handling mental illness. The public system for the homeless focuses on what Gong terms “tolerant containment.” This is the effort, born of civil libertarian ideas about the personal autonomy of the mentally ill combined with a woeful lack of public resources, to accept the problematic behaviors of the mentally ill so long as they remain out of public view in subsidized apartments or flophouses. But Neil contrasts that with the “concerted constraint” work of private clinics that, driven by the concerns of the patients’ families and loved ones, limit the freedoms of their clients as they intensively work to make them as high functioning as possible.

In the latter part of the conversation we talk about what we should be doing to improve our response to mental illness in American cities. Gong argues we don't need new approaches, but rather greater investment in a more balanced system that combines a variety of approaches, from sober housing to intensive residential programs to in patient hospitalization capacity that compliments the existing, clearly inadequate, post-deinstitutionalization community care system.

Our editor is Quinn Waller.

Outside sources:

Neil Gong, Sons, Daughters, and Sidewalk Psychotics: Mental Illness and Homelessness in Los Angeles (University of Chicago Press, 2024).

About Blue City Blues:

Over the last two decades, rural places have gotten redder and urban areas much bluer. America’s bluest cities developed their own distinctive culture, politics and governance. They became the leading edge of a cultural transformation that reshaped progressivism, redefined urbanism and remade the Democratic Party.
But as blue cities went their own way, as they thrived as economically and culturally vibrant trend-setters, these urban islands also developed their own distinctive set of problems. Inequality soared, and affordability tanked. And the conversation about those problems stagnated, as rising tribalism and growing polarization constrained discourse and reinforced cosmopolitan progressive groupthink among educated urban elites. Blue City Blues aims get beyond that conventional wisdom in offering a national perspective on the present and the future of urban America. We will consider blue cities as a collective whole. What unites them? What troubles them? What defines them? Through conversations with a diverse array of smart thinkers and expert guests, we're committed to expanding the horizons of dialogue about the challenges blue cities face.

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