How will distributors thrive in the age of digital transformation, AI disruption, and customer experience redefinition?

In this episode of Around the Horn in Wholesale Distribution, Ian Heller sits down with John Gunderson and Kevin to unpack the seismic shifts reshaping B2B sales strategy, channel alignment, and customer segmentation.

With insightful commentary and bold predictions, the team explores the future of CRM-ERP integration, why distributors must evolve beyond legacy thinking, and how AI-powered selling is no longer optional; it’s inevitable.

What You’ll Learn:

• Why many distributors are trapped in the “inside-out” mindset—and how to flip it for real growth
• The biggest blind spot in traditional CRM strategy (and how AI Co-Pilots are changing that)
• How top-performing distributors use segmentation and persona-based selling to drive hidden revenue
• What manufacturers really want in channel partnerships today
• Practical frameworks for modernizing your sales org—without losing your human touch

Episode Highlights:

04:29 – The role of entertainment and personality in B2B podcasting
12:17 – Why segmentation is the missing link in most distributor sales strategies
23:40 – How “AI Co-Pilots” reshape the sales conversation
31:05 – A behind-the-scenes look at channel misalignment and how to fix it
41:18 – The value of CRM-ERP integration for surfacing hidden revenue
52:44 – Persona-based selling: what it is and why it matters
59:59 – A human-centric view of sales automation
1:08:22 – Predictions on the next phase of distributor evolution

Meet the Guest:

John Gunderson is VP of Sales at Distribution Strategy Group and a veteran advisor to the wholesale distribution industry. With deep expertise in sales strategy, segmentation, and manufacturer-distributor alignment, John brings pragmatic insight to the digital transformation conversation.

Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned:

• AI Co-Pilot for Sales
• CRM-ERP Integration
• Hidden Revenue Detection
• Persona-Based Segmentation
• Sales Automation Without Losing the Human Touch

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How are global supply chains bouncing back amid recession fears, and what role does generative AI play in rewriting the future of B2B sales, marketing, and cybersecurity?

In Episode 146 of Around the Horn in Wholesale Distribution, hosts Kevin Brown and Tom Burton of LeadSmart Technologies unpack the economic shifts, digital commerce trends, and AI-infused transformations shaping the future of manufacturing and distribution. From tariffs and freight to text-based orders and AI-powered scams, this episode is a must-listen for professionals navigating wholesale disruption and digital acceleration.

What You’ll Learn

• Why 65% of industrial buyers are ordering online—and how device-agnostic tools like text-to-order are reshaping customer expectations
• What’s driving the GenAI talent revolution across sales and marketing, including five emerging AI roles every organization needs
• How global trade, port activity, and tariffs signal freight resurgence—despite economic “fog”
• Which cybersecurity threats are powered by generative AI, and what you can do to defend your team
• How Gen Z is transforming the workforce, demanding flexibility, autonomy, and technology-native experiences

Meet the Hosts

Kevin Brown and Tom Burton are co-founders of LeadSmart Technologies, creators of the Customer Intelligence Platform that helps modern distributors and manufacturers surface hidden revenue, automate sales workflows, and power smart CRM transformation.

Tools, Frameworks, and Strategies Mentioned

• LeadSmart’s Customer Intelligence Platform
• ChannelCloud: Unified sales and marketing stack for distributors
• Smart CRM: AI-powered customer engagement tracking
• Genius Feed: Real-time insights delivery across teams
• Human-Centric Sales AI: Automation without losing the human touch

Closing Insight & CTA

To explore how LeadSmart Technologies can help your team discover hidden revenue and drive sales automation with empathy, visit LeadSmartTech.com and subscribe to the Around the Horn newsletter.

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What happens when a fourth-generation industrial distributor embraces digital transformation?

In this episode, Kevin Brown and Tom Burton are joined by Max Meister of Ludwig Meister GmbH to explore what it really takes to modernize sales, systems, and mindsets in a legacy-driven industry.

From CRM reimagination to cultural adoption strategies, this episode is a masterclass in building a future-ready distribution business without losing your human edge.

What You’ll Learn

• Why CRM adoption strategies often fail—and how to fix them
• How to turn your CRM into an AI sales co-pilot that delivers real value
• What European distributors can teach U.S. businesses about sustainable innovation
• How to balance sales automation with human connection
• The role of CRM-ERP integration in uncovering hidden revenue opportunities

Episode Highlights

• 04:10 – Why European distributors struggle to embrace digital transformation
• 09:25 – Max Meister on building cultural readiness for CRM adoption
• 14:45 – How Ludwig Meister approached CRM-ERP integration for real sales insights
• 21:30 – Why most CRM platforms fail frontline reps—and how to fix it
• 28:05 – Moving from sales reporting to revenue intelligence with smart systems
• 34:50 – Using AI as a true co-pilot: automating insight, not just workflow
• 41:15 – The role of trust and emotion in tech adoption across generations
• 48:00 – Balancing tradition with innovation in long-standing businesses
• 56:30 – Sustainable innovation: What U.S. distributors can learn from the EU model
• 1:03:15 – Real-world tactics for increasing CRM adoption and frontline usage
• 1:11:40 – Future-proofing sales teams through digital confidence, not pressure
• 1:21:00 – Final insights: Why your CRM should feel like your smartest teammate

Meet the Guest

Max Meister is the Managing Director of Ludwig Meister GmbH, a century-old German distribution company that has become a model for smart digital transformation in the industrial sector.

Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned

• CRM Reimagined – CRM as a real-time assistant, not a reporting tool
• Sales Co-Pilot Model – Using AI for next-best-action guidance
• Data-Driven Adoption Framework – Cultural change meets system value

Closing Insight

Adoption isn’t about compliance—it’s about confidence. If you want to future-proof your sales team, start by making your systems indispensable.

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