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And We Feel Fine with Beth Rudden and Katie Smith

And We Feel Fine with Beth Rudden and Katie Smith

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At the edge of collapse—and creation—two unlikely co-conspirators invite you into a radically honest conversation about the future. This isn’t just another tech or self-help podcast. It’s a story-driven exploration of who we are, what we value, and how we might reimagine the world when the systems around us stop serving us. We blend personal storytelling, cultural critique, and deep inquiry into what it means to be human in an age of AI, uncertainty, and transformation. We’re asking better questions—together. Because the world is changing fast, but maybe that’s precisely what we need. Hosted by Beth Rudden and Katie Smith, two builders of systems and challengers of the status quo. Beth is CEO of Bast.AI and a globally recognized expert in trustworthy AI, with decades of experience leading data and ethics at IBM. Katie is the founder of Humma.AI, a strategist who drove innovation and revenue growth at major global brands before turning to human rights and technology for social good. Together, they make complex issues, such as AI and its impacts on everyday people, clear, personal, and impossible to ignore. Beth Rudden is the CEO and Founder of Bast AI, a pioneering company building explainable, personalized AI for good. With over two decades of experience as a global executive and Distinguished Engineer at IBM, Beth blends anthropology, data science, and AI governance to create tools that amplify human dignity and intelligence—not replace it. Her work spans healthcare, education, and workforce transformation, using ontological natural language understanding (NLU) to make AI transparent, accountable, and accessible. Through Bast AI, Beth is reimagining how organizations deploy AI that’s not only accurate but aligned with ethical values, cultural context, and cognitive well-being. Beth is also the author of AI for the Rest of Us and a passionate advocate for AI literacy, epistemic diversity, and the right to understand the systems shaping our lives. She speaks globally on the future of AI, power, and social contracts—and believes we’re all stewards of the next intelligence. Katie Smith is the CEO and Founder of Humma.AI, a privacy-first platform building community-powered, culturally competent AI. With over two decades of experience leading digital strategy and social innovation, Katie blends systems thinking, Responsible AI, and storytelling to create tools that serve dignity, not domination. Their work spans mental health, civic tech, and digital rights, using participatory AI to make systems safer, fairer, and more accountable. Through Humma.AI, Katie is reimagining how people and businesses engage AI that’s accurate, inclusive, and governed by consent and care. Katie is also the author of Zoe Bios: The Epigenetics of Terrorism, a provocative exploration of identity, trauma, and transformation. They speak globally on the future of technology, power, and justice—and believe human empathy is the intelligence that will define our time. Subscribe to our Substack for bonus content: https://substack.com/@andwefeelfine© 2025 Katie Smith & Beth Rudden Sciences sociales
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    • Episode 16 | The Death of the 10x Coder: Empathy, Inclusion, and Tech Leadership with Autumn Patterson
      Aug 20 2025

      What happens when we stop chasing the myth of the lone “10x coder” and start building engineering cultures rooted in empathy, predictability, and inclusion?

      In this candid conversation, we go deep with Autumn Patterson—VP of Technology, veteran engineering leader, and trans woman whose journey has redefined what leadership in tech can look like. Autumn shares how she learned to “climb the mountain,” moving fluidly from the details of code to the big-picture vision of business impact.

      Along the way, we explore:

      • Why true agility is about context and predictability, not just speed.
      • The three pillars of engineering stability: due consideration, understanding, and predictability.
      • How transitioning unlocked Autumn’s empathy and made authentic leadership possible.
      • The dangers of “10x coders” and cultures that exclude, versus teams that thrive on mentorship and balance.
      • How AI tools like Claude, Cursor, and Lovable are reshaping engineering work—for better and worse.
      • Why inclusion isn’t charity—it’s strategy.

      This episode is for anyone who wants to rethink leadership, connect code to culture, and build systems where both people and products can thrive.

      Find Autumn:
      LinkedIn: Autumn Patterson
      Quora: (if you can find her 👀)

      Brought to you by:

      • Humma — Empathetic AI™ made by and for the community.
      • Bast.ai — Building the trust layer for our AI infrastructure.

      Listen, subscribe, share — your support keeps these conversations going.

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      1 h et 4 min
    • Episode 15 | Decentralizing the Future: Web3, Labor, and Life Beyond Extraction with Crystal Street
      Aug 13 2025

      In this conversation, we go deep with Crystal Street — Naropa Institute graduate, journalist, photographer, and bridge-builder between the frontline of crypto and the ethics we desperately need in tech. From whistleblowing in Web3 to building decentralized communities in Web3, Crystal brings lived experience, clarity, and a healthy dose of "enough is enough" to our exploration of how technology can serve people, not extract from them.


      We talk endings and beginnings:

      • Ending: extractive systems that consume our time, attention, and sovereignty.
      • Beginning: a return to open, transparent, community-led tech — the promise of Web1 reborn through Web3.


      Along the way, we dig into:

      • Why Web2's top-down hierarchies break inside blockchain's organic ecosystems.
      • Hyperlocal currencies and cooperative governance as lifelines when old systems fail.
      • Smart contracts — why lawyers side-eye them, and when they're worth fighting for.
      • How DAOs like JournalDAO are reimagining journalism from the "basement of the casino."
      • What voting on-chain could mean for real democracy.
      • The quiet crisis of Gen X in the job market, and why bridges between generations matter now more than ever.


      Crystal also shares a raw look at the current labor reality — the silent suffering behind the job hunt, the collapse of safety nets, and why reinvention is both a necessity and a skill set we cannot afford to lose.


      This episode is for anyone who:

      • Wants to understand Web3 without the crypto bro haze.
      • Feels the strain of extractive work systems.
      • Wonder how local communities can take back power from centralized platforms.
      • Believes transparency and participation should be baked into the systems that shape our lives.


      Find Crystal:

      Twitter/X: @CrystalDStreet

      Podcast: The Human Layer


      Brought to you by:

      • Humma — Empathetic AI™ made by and for the community.
      • Bast.ai — Building the trust layer for our AI infrastructure.


      Listen, subscribe, share — your support keeps these conversations going.

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      59 min
    • Episode 14 | The Revolution Will Be Rested: Why Burnout Isn’t a Badge of Honor
      Aug 6 2025

      Welcome back to And We Feel Fine—the radically honest podcast about what’s ending, what’s beginning, and how we build systems of care, not conquest.

      In this episode, co-hosts Beth Rudden and Katie Smith flip the script on self-care—from something commodified and individual to something collective, powerful, and deeply structural.

      We unpack why real rest is not separate from leadership—it's at the heart of it. From neurodivergent rhythms to exit strategies for grind culture, we explore what it looks like to plan your breakdown, build rituals instead of routines, and stop treating exhaustion like proof of worth.

      This one’s for anyone who’s held it all together for too long—and is ready to build something better.

      🔍 Topics We Cover:

      • Why “always on” leadership is a dead end
      • How neurodivergent and queer folks model new ways to rest and reset
      • What the engagement economy steals from us (and how we reclaim it)
      • The link between self-care, collective care, and actual system change
      • Stories of dance parties, breakdowns, and radical boundary-setting

      🕰️ Timestamps:

      00:00 – When leaders need to fall apart (and why that’s healthy)

      05:00 – Neurodivergence, burnout, and boundaries at work

      13:00 – “Always on” tech and the addiction economy

      20:00 – Redesigning the workplace for psychological safety

      32:30 – Building culture with rest, rituals, and care at the center

      💥 Sponsors:

      Bast.ai⁠ — Explainable, transparent AI that keeps your data yours.
      Humma.AI⁠— Empathetic AI™ that starts with consent builds with community and delivers cultural relevance at scale.

      🗣️ Join the conversation:

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      💬 How do you build in breaks, joy, or boundaries? Tell us in the comments

      ❤️ Like if you’re ready for a new model of leadership

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      📬 Want deeper dives and behind-the-scenes posts?⁠ andwefeelfine.substack.com

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      54 min
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