Meta and Amazon are cutting managers, but is it efficiency or chaos?

Is de-layering, or flattening your org chart, good for a company, or is it a recipe for destruction?

Join Product Manager Brian Orlando and Enterprise Business Agility Coach Om Patel as we wade into the murky pool that is the latest of corporate trends - "un-bossing" or the mass sacrifice of middle management and mid-level coordination roles on the unholy alter of efficiency.

While the biggest of big companies are slashing layers to reduce costs and empower the IC (individual contributors), we take a more nuanced look, arguing that without proper system redesign, this approach leads to decision bottlenecks, leadership vacuums, and the collapse of career mobility.

Listen or watch as we discuss:
- Why firing coordinators doesn't eliminate the need for coordination
- The dangers of "spreadsheet-driven development" (SDD™)
- How informal hierarchies and politics emerge when formal authority is removed
- The impact of removing middle management on mentorship, sponsorship, and career growth
- How to actually flatten an org, when necessary

We're pulling out all the stops (and the research) as we review Google's failed "no manager" experiment from 2002, revisit the book Team Topologies, and discuss the recent trend towards a Chief of Staff type role. If you are a leader considering a reorg or a developer wondering why your meetings are getting more chaotic, this episode is for you!

#ProductManagement #Leadership #TeamTopologies

Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais, Google Project Oxygen, Fortune article "Executives are drowning. Blame the vanishing middle management layer" by Lily May Lazarus, Zappos Holacracy, Arguing Agile Episode #67 (Team Topologies), Arguing Agile Episode #250 (AI ROI)

LINKS
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@arguingagile
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/362QvYORmtZRKAeTAE57v3
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596

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