• Episode 100: Jocelyn says they planned something big, life been lifin’, and they’re taking celebration ideas
• Jocelyn on the peanut butter and chili comments: we never said you were disgusting, people are hearing with emotions and not words
• Jocelyn likes peanut butter chocolate milk and that’s her business. Jade: I’ll applaud you from afar
• Five Indianapolis officers charged with misusing Flock cameras. Jocelyn: why are we protecting their identities?
• Jade: if the public doesn’t have access, who did y’all think was going to abuse it?
• Jocelyn: they your ex for a reason. Leave them in the past
• Jocelyn is a left lane driver. Jade: this is Indiana, we drive whatever the spirit leads us to
• Jocelyn: put your phone down at the light. Jade: you the line leader
• Jocelyn: if Indianapolis keeps building roundabouts, everybody should take the driver test again
• Jade: 96th and Allisonville is Crash City, and new roundabouts keep going up while the potholes stay
• Jocelyn on the driver who stopped inside a roundabout while her windows were down
• Jade: this is not the time to be a good Samaritan. Either do it or don’t
• Jade’s first hires with real money: a cleaner, a cook, and a chauffeur. Jocelyn would still cook, and she meal preps every Sunday
• Somebody said a livable wage is your employer’s job. Jocelyn: they set the rate off what the business can afford, and you’re not part of that equation
• Jade: the job’s job is to pay you what they agreed to. Jocelyn: you can’t get mad about something you accepted
• Jocelyn: I’ve been the person who couldn’t afford it, and I found another way to get more money. Jade: it was me, I was her, I got out of it
• Jade: it’s easy to say what you’d do when you’re the receiver. How about the giver?
• Jade wants to stop paying taxes. Jocelyn would pay if they were reasonable and she could see where the money went
• Jocelyn got audited by the state and they adjusted it anyway. Jade’s fix: an estimate every February with a dispute line
• Jocelyn wants the happy side of TikTok back. Jade has used YouTube since 2005, and Jocelyn didn’t start until the podcast
• Jocelyn: AI is not your friend, period. Jade: how lonely do you gotta be?
• Jade: nobody watched iRobot. AI wants you dependent so it can learn how you think
• Jocelyn on when she’ll use ChatGPT at work: SQL she taught herself, and only what she truly doesn’t know how to do
• Jocelyn to the newcomers: you probably found us from the Long’s donut video, the peanut butter and chili, or the sister who asked for three hours of babysitting

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• That’s not my job: Jocelyn says if they’re meeting expectations, they still get the raise
• Jocelyn: read your job description. And other duties as assigned means anything is your job now. Jade: job hazard
• Jade: I don’t wanna be a culture fit, I wanna fit the job. Jocelyn: the culture at work is a facade anyway
• Jade: my mom always said how people feel about you ain’t none of your business
• Jocelyn: promotions should never go by seniority. Promote the girl who’s been here two years working circles around everybody
• Ask Jocelyn a question at your own risk. Do you want the truth, or do you want confirming information?
• Jocelyn: I think through how I’ll feel about the answer before I ask. If my feelings would be hurt, I’m not asking
• A coworker asked Jocelyn if she’d be considered for manager. Jocelyn told her no: you don’t advocate for yourself, and you only do your job
• Jade: if your feelings already hurt, why you ask a follow-up?
• Jocelyn: take a three-hour process down to one, and now you’re a promotion candidate
• Jade: you care enough to improve things. You wanna lead
• Jocelyn: what did you do outside your job description that told them you were ready? Your boss is not a mind reader
• Jade: been here 20 years doing subpar work? So what. Jocelyn: what value are you adding?
• Jocelyn read the comments: just about every Black person said no, and a lot of white people said it’s amazing
• School lunch: Jade’s Indiana cafeteria had smothered pork chops. Jocelyn’s Chicago one had Super Donuts
• Jocelyn’s poll flipped from 60 percent crazy work to 58 percent yes
• Jade wants to try the cinnamon roll in the chili. The comments said don’t lie on us
• Jocelyn: Indiana is not the Midwest. We’re closer to Virginia than Wyoming. Jade: people just refuse to stop calling it that
• Jocelyn: you don’t have to try everything to know it’s not for you. Never had chitlins. Jade: I smelt them once and that was enough
• Jocelyn: don’t yuck my yum? I hate that phrase. Eat it if you like it
• Thirty combinations from the comments: cinnamon rolls with American cheese, peanut butter and honey, peanut butter and Miracle Whip
• Chili mac: Jocelyn’s mom made it in Chicago. Jade: that’s hamburger helper
• Chicken nuggets in a Frosty? Jade would try a spicy one. Jocelyn puts sugar in her grits. Jade: cilantro tastes like soap
• Jade puts butter on the back of a Pop-Tart. Jocelyn, an extremely picky eater, doesn’t like Pop-Tarts at all
• Where do you stand on the chili debate?
• Merch is live on the website: hats, hoodies, shirts, and cups

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• Your friends are not your fans: Jocelyn read the line, and neither of them agrees with it
• Team building, two truths and a lie, and Jocelyn hates that game
• The iced coffee interview: whether it’s acceptable is a different question from whether you’d do it
• Jocelyn: what do people think the purpose of an interview is?
• Jocelyn’s pet peeve: clammy hands. Jade’s wish: that COVID had ended the handshake for good
• Jade: we got bigger fish to fry than the iced coffee
• The HR rep who started it, and what frowned upon actually means
• Jocelyn: I’m in the business of letting full-grown adults learn their own lessons
• Jocelyn: no sleeve, sweating on the desk, shaking it every sip. That’s a self-awareness issue
• Neither of them works for a Fortune 500
• What we said versus what people heard: the servers clip, and what they actually said about finding another job
• We said we tip. You still have to earn it
• Tipping is rooted in racism, and that is a different conversation than the one they were having
• Jade: it’s called A Girl’s Perspective, not A Girl’s Facts
• Jade: who are you that we gotta lie about tipping? Believe what you wanna believe, boo
• Jade: I’m not giving you $30 because you said hello. My food is cold
• Jocelyn is active in the comments, and the loudest people never have a rebuttal
• Jocelyn: you’re not going off what you heard, you’re going off what you felt
• The clip that hit 400,000 views, and the comments that assigned a race to a story that never mentioned one
• Jocelyn’s pet peeve: taking a stereotype and spreading it. It does not make you look educated
• Jade: trifling is trifling. Every group does it
• Jade: the comments people leave on our content hurt my heart
• Jocelyn babysat for her brother for an hour or two. Not a trip to Miami
• Men use kids as weapons too, and nobody brings that up
• Jocelyn: blanket something on me because of the color of my skin and I’m triggered, because I try hard not to fit the stereotypes
• Baby mama drama, cheating, welfare: every community has it, and only one gets the label
• Jade: when we read it, I never thought about race. I thought, she trifling
• Jocelyn has not dealt with much outright racism, with one exception she tells
• Jade has. They followed her around with it at a job, lied on her, and reported her to HR
• Jocelyn: don’t like me because of my skin? Fine. Leave me alone. Jade: they don’t. They’re obsessed with you
• Positive stereotypes for Black people, and Jade’s problem with “if you’re lost, find a Black woman”
• Jade hates the one about all Black women being able to cook. Jade lists all Black people can dance, and Jocelyn cannot
• Jade cannot play Spades. Neither of them fits the last stereotype on the list either
• Free therapy, and does your mama know you’re in the comments doing this?
• Over 100 followers on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Merch is live: cups, shirts, hats, and hoodies

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This week, we’re talking about being childfree, adult friendship, and work boundaries: why Jocelyn does not have kids and why one cat is already a lot, the strangers on TikTok asking for your phone number so y’all can be friends, and Jocelyn’s rule that a happy hour after work is on her time, not the company’s. We also get into the friend who waters a succulent with a shot glass, why Jade will not hand cash to a cashier under 30, the people who get promoted, team building every single month, and the Tae Bo and P90X series they want to film. Whether you’re navigating the no-kids question, trying to make friends as a grown woman, or a job that keeps scheduling things after you clock out, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.

• Getting jiggy with it, and Jade singing En Vogue for no reason
• Jade is on a two week hiatus from nursing school and says she is too old for it
• Paul Wall never cussed and nobody noticed
• Jade hissed at her son once, and now he hisses at everybody
• Jade’s son asked for a picture-day photo to give a girl at school, and learned about prom from a Hilary Duff movie
• Why Jocelyn does not have kids: the patience, and what it takes to keep things alive
• Jocelyn is overwhelmed with the cat
• Jocelyn took over her friend’s succulent after she caught him watering it with a shot glass
• Water it rarely, but water it well. Bottom feeding, new soil, and a monthly reminder
• Planty, the office plant Jocelyn turned into six plants
• Strangers on TikTok posting that they are looking for friends, with their exact location, telling people to DM their phone number
• BFF Indy, and why meeting in public is the safer version
• We used to give strangers our number in high school. It was a house phone and your mama was screening
• The Nokia brick, the snake game, and five business days on one charge
• Jocelyn: DM my number? What are you talking about, weirdo? Jade: let’s meet somewhere
• How much is tied to your phone number now, and why scammers can read the thread too
• Jade: people are lonely out here, and the friends you meet organically are messing up too, so why not try a stranger? Same odds
• Burned by everything but a lighter, and the pants that almost caught fire
• Why are cashiers hoarding the dividers?
• Jade will not hand cash to a cashier under 30, and Jocelyn used to freeze when somebody handed her a check
• Uncredit cards, and how credit cards worked before the internet
• Jocelyn was the cashier, Jade worked at the hotel, and Jade says there ain’t nothing but whores in a hotel
• Jocelyn’s whole job history on one hand, and Jade’s rule that very few places get a notice
• You can’t use me as a reference, and why neither of them wants a job because of somebody else
• Do you change for work? Friendly without being informative
• Happy hours: during work hours Jocelyn is there like swimwear, after work she is on her own time
• Jade: the people who get promoted are the ones who go
• Why one of them was glad to leave corporate, and why the bar is always wrong
• Happy hour was 2 to 4 until they moved it to 4 to 6
• My staff only came for the free food. Is it free if it costs your time?
• Jocelyn lives to eat, and could have been happier at Chick-fil-A
• Team building every single month, five managers, and the one game that actually works
• The future challenge: Tae Bo, P90X, Jillian Michaels, and Shaun T on camera
• Closing out every bar, then Steak ’n Shake, Denny’s, Kilroy’s, or IHOP
• Moons Over My Hammy, ham, steak, salmon, and who could go pescatarian
• Bacon, greens, fried cabbage, and why kimchi should not crunch
• Tuna packets at work, and the coworker who crop dusted the whole aisle
• You do not fart in other people’s bedrooms, and you do not blow your nose at the table
• Do all the things: like, comment, share, rate, and review

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This week, we’re talking about adult ADHD and what nobody tells you after the diagnosis: the medication that had Jocelyn flipping out on people at her old job, the apology she went back and gave, and still meant, and the ADHD coaching her psychiatrist just told her exists. We also get into the birthday sail on Lake Michigan that Jocelyn paid for and he could not keep down, Gen Z telling millennials to retire, Jade’s No Child Left Behind soapbox, the follow-up to the Miami sister story, and why the word of the week is accountability. Whether you’re navigating ADHD as a grown woman, a job you already apologized to, or family that mistakes you for free childcare, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.

• Jocelyn’s psychiatrist follow-up, and the ADHD coaching she did not know existed
• What are adults who find out they have ADHD supposed to do, just cope on their own?
• Why sleep makes ADHD worse and ADHD makes sleep worse
• The medication that had Jocelyn flipping out on people at her old job, the apology she went back and gave, and why she still meant it
• Jocelyn’s birthday trip to Michigan, and the resort full of retirees
• Jocelyn hates water and the beach, and paid for a sunset sail on Lake Michigan for his birthday anyway
• Seasick in the middle of the lake, the mints, the bag, and the eye patch pictures Jocelyn sent Jade
• Jade’s verdict: you terrible, and I would have done the same thing
• Two trainees and a fire drill on a boat somebody paid for
• Why Jocelyn is convinced a cruise would be the end of her, and why Jade is going on one anyway
• Lakes, oceans, and the California flight with grandma that started it
• The 14 hour flight to South Korea Jocelyn is going to take anyway
• Gen Z is rage baiting millennials, and Jocelyn commented twice
• Jocelyn thought she was Gen X because of a Spice Girls song
• Jade is 35 and just got the management job, so what you mean retire?
• Outperform us and take it, and why every millennial would retire tomorrow if she could
• Jade’s soapbox: No Child Left Behind, no consequences, no winners
• Accountability, and what the Miami sister story looks like two weeks later
• Jocelyn on family that manipulates you: that is just somebody you share DNA with
• Why Jocelyn was the family babysitter, and what she would do if her brother pulled this
• The key word of the episode is accountability
• Teach You a Lesson on Netflix, recommended for the second time, subtitles only
• Is childfree an offensive term? Childfree vs childless
• Homeless vs unhoused, and who decided
• It’s A Girl’s Perspective, not A Girl’s Facts
• Y’all corrected us on Aladdin, and one of us still says the Genie did too much
• TikTok hit 6,000, the Miami clip passed 400,000, and thank you for showing up

Timestamps:

00:00 Medication Switch Talk

02:31 Behavioral Coaching Referral

04:59 Doctors Who Explain

05:49 Concerta Dose Fallout

07:28 Birthday Trip Michigan

10:04 Sailing Trip Disaster

13:55 Pirate Pics Debate

16:34 Boat Safety Complaints

18:33 Irrational Water Fears

23:48 Gen Z Rage Bait Theory

26:17 Retirement Rage Bait

27:08 Outperform Us Then

28:36 No Child Left Behind

29:22 Babysitting Gone Wrong

30:35 Accountability Over Family

35:12 Teach You a Lesson

40:11 Childfree Term Debate

42:06 Unhoused vs Homeless

45:04 Aladdin Genie Argument

49:41 Growth and Farewell

Two lives. Two perspectives. One unfiltered conversation.

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This week, we're talking about student loans and what it really cost to do what everybody told millennials to do: the $99,900 Jocelyn owed on one accounting degree, the for-profit college behind most of it, the class action lawsuit, the borrower defense claim, and the day her balance dropped to $34,000. We also get into the hairstylist who told clients to stop texting when they arrive, why tips are optional, whether doctors should make more than teachers, and the Long's versus Hart's donut update Indianapolis has been asking for. Whether you're navigating student loan debt you signed for before you understood it, customer service that expects you to serve it, or a city that will pray for you over a donut opinion, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.

• A coworker who thought bugaboo was a term of endearment

• The hairstylist who told clients to stop texting when they arrive, and why Jade says the text is how you find out she is not ready

• $100 an hour, no seating area, and what stylists think customers owe them

• Jocelyn, a prescription, and a pharmacist with an attitude

• Tips are optional: Jocelyn tips well and says it anyway

• Teachers deserve more money, and teaching has always been honest about the pay

• Should doctors make more than teachers? Jade says they go to school longer, Jocelyn says the teachers are the ones teaching them

• The no zero grading policy and what a B used to be

• How college got pushed on millennials starting in elementary school, and why community college got treated like a punishment

• Ten years to graduate, every college we went to, and the Ivy Tech rule

• Jocelyn's student loan story: $99,900 on an accounting degree, two years at DeVry, the refund checks, the class action lawsuit she found on TikTok, the borrower defense claim on the federal student aid site, and the discharge that took her down to $34,000

• Only in the USA: a viral video we are not sure is real

• The Indiana fertility doctor documentary and the part that scares Jocelyn most

• The Hart's update: Jade still has not been

• Indiana staples: King Ribs, Long's, peanut butter sandwiches with chili, fries in a Frosty, bacon donuts, and the tenderloin bigger than your head

• Uranus, Indiana is real and known for fudge

• The donut comments: Tim's, Sweet Shop, Pana, the man who wants his $2.50 back, and the Last Supper comment

• What happened when Jocelyn went back to Hart's

• Sippers vs gulpers

• Elmo vs Barney, the Big Comfy Couch, cable but not new shoes, and the radio that never turned off

00:00 Bugaboo At Work

03:06 Hair Appointment Rants

09:37 Pharmacy Customer Service

12:39 Tipping And Job Choices

13:46 Teachers Pay Debate

19:15 College Scam Talk

24:24 Student Loan Horror Story

27:05 Borrower Defense Win

31:08 Unpredictable Friend Energy

33:40 Only In The USA Story

38:55 Hart's Update And Indiana Staples

41:40 King Ribs Debate

42:24 Midwest Food Combos

44:32 Tenderloin Madness

46:51 Indiana Is Foolish

49:57 Donut Shop Recs

51:17 Longs Comment Wars

59:30 Hartz Love Story

01:03:14 Weight And Hormones

01:06:43 Wrap Up And Plugs

01:07:45 Elmo Vs Barney

01:10:46 Grandma TV Memories

01:13:31 Final Goodbye

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This week, we're talking about Black hair and everything we went through to have it: the relaxer that burned and the beautician who said tell me when you feel it, the salon Saturdays that took the whole day, the big chop, sisterlocks, and the little boy who thinks moms are supposed to have hair. Also on the table: screenshot everything your boss tells you, the report nobody mentioned until it was due, the genie being a bad influence on Aladdin, and a photographer who says she loves our people but can't show you one of us. Whether you're still giving the salon your Saturdays, wondering if your loctician should have this much say, or just tired of explaining your hair to people who don't have to deal with it, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.

• Two weeks without staff, a report nobody mentioned until it was due, and the whole commercial book of business

• Dropping the ball on purpose versus owning the part that was actually yours

• Screenshot everything: dated, filed by person, meeting minutes in a separate folder

• When Jade leaves a job, the spirit already told her

• Everybody Hates Chris, the Chris Rock debate, and whether anybody remembers he was the zebra in Madagascar

• Happy Feet, the Prince soundtrack, and Robin Williams

• Nothing tops Aladdin, and the genie was a bad influence

• Vincenzo and villains who are geniuses until it's time to be geniuses

• Outdoor shoots available weekdays only, closed Monday through Thursday

• The Black photographer with five photos on her page and not one Black face

• Show me you know how to light us, and why Instagram is not a portfolio

• Dyeing it brown for fall, and the loctician who will not bleach Jocelyn's hair

• Your hair belongs to me now: why Jocelyn handed her head over to her loctician

• Jade's son said moms are supposed to have hair. Jade said it's in the trash

• The perm burn Jocelyn liked, the Malcolm X scene, and the perm Jade's father did that left a bald patch

• Why Jade cut it all off: the salon Saturday that never ended

• The Just For Me commercial was a silk press, and Jam, Sofree, and Blue Magic

• No bedroom set at 39, the oil spot on the wall, and hiring somebody to clean

• The diced pepperoni incident and "different strokes for different folks"

• I drink what the sign say, and PICU is not a thing

00:00 A week on the water

01:00 Two weeks without my staff

02:00 PTO means prepare the others

03:00 The report nobody mentioned until it was due

05:15 The whole commercial book of business

06:30 Extending the vacation

08:00 Dropping the ball on purpose

10:00 The mistake that wasn't all mine

13:30 Screenshot everything

16:30 When I leave, I have a reason

17:00 Everybody Hates Chris, and so does one of us

18:30 Who was the zebra in Madagascar

20:45 Happy Feet and the Prince soundtrack

22:30 Nothing tops Aladdin

23:30 The genie was a bad influence

24:30 Vincenzo and villains who forget to be smart

31:30 Did Happy Feet have a villain

32:30 Outdoor shoots, weekdays only, closed Monday through Thursday

36:00 A photographer with no website

36:45 Five photos, all white women

39:00 Show me you know how to light us

39:30 Instagram is not a portfolio

41:30 Dyeing it brown for fall

42:15 Your hair belongs to me now

43:30 Why Jocelyn won't cut hers

44:30 Moms are supposed to have hair

45:30 I liked the burn

46:45 The Malcolm X scene

47:30 The perm my father did

49:30 Sick of my whole Saturday being gone

50:15 The Just For Me commercial was a silk press

51:15 Jam, Sofree, and Blue Magic

52:30 No bedroom set at 39

53:45 The oil spot on the wall

55:00 The only thing I wanna do is sit down

56:30 Merch and the Carolina blue hoodie

59:00 The diced pepperoni incident

1:04:00 I drink what the sign say

1:04:45 PICU is not a thing

1:06:15 Wrap up

Two lives. Two perspectives. One unfiltered conversation.

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This week, we’re talking about what 35 does to a woman’s body and mind and why nobody warns you: ADHD symptoms that showed up out of nowhere, menopause creeping into the 40s, and doctors who say nah you good while your friend is finding out on TikTok what her old OBGYN never told her. Whether you’re wondering if it’s ADHD or menopause, fighting a doctor for a decision about your own body, or just trying to figure out why everything got harder after 35, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.

• Jocelyn asked her psychiatrist if ADHD can just show up, and what she said about women and menopause

• Jade’s theory: at 35 everything goes downhill, wisdom teeth included

• Why menopause is the biggest life event women never talk about

• Hysterectomy does not automatically mean menopause, and why “total” does not mean what you think

• Menopause is showing up in the 40s and doctors are still saying nah you good

• The TikTok about ten years on a birth control shot and the OBGYN who never said a word

• Why Jocelyn wants a woman handling her reproductive health

• The doctor who told Jade she was infertile and never put it in her chart

• Why paying off your car early can drop your credit score 30 points

• A lioness and her cub loose in Indiana, and where is the daddy

• The sister who asked for three hours of babysitting and flew to Miami

• Low maintenance vs high maintenance vs low investment friendships, defined

• The high school friend who showed up at a boyfriend’s house over two missed calls

• The one question to ask at the start of every relationship

• Art After Dark, release forms, and who actually shows up for you

• Hot yoga, guided meditation, and why counting to ten is not clearing your mind

• The journals Jocelyn found and the referral she still has not called

• Ten years of asking for a hysterectomy and why autonomy is supposed to be the rule

• Nobody to take care of but me, and Jade’s future orange cat

Timestamps:

00:00 Back on the meds

01:30 Three credit cards paid off

02:00 The lender said don’t pay off the car

02:50 The Trax and the 30 points

04:00 Can ADHD just show up? The psychiatrist answers

05:30 At 35 everything goes downhill

06:30 Why nobody talks about menopause

07:30 Hysterectomy does not mean menopause

09:00 The anesthesiologist and the word “total”

10:30 Menopause is creeping into the 40s

11:00 Doctors saying nah you good

12:00 Male OBGYNs and life experience

12:45 The doctor said infertile and never wrote it down

13:30 A lioness is loose in Indiana

16:30 Can a lion break down a door

17:45 The saline recall

21:15 Story time: watch my sister’s kids for a couple hours

22:30 Miami owes me nothing

24:30 Who was wrong

26:30 Babysitting the whole family

29:30 Anybody can get cut

31:15 Low maintenance, high maintenance, low investment

32:30 The TikTok that started it

35:00 The friend who showed up at the boyfriend’s house

36:30 What do you want from this relationship

40:30 Art After Dark

42:45 Do you still need a release form

47:00 Who actually showed up

50:30 The $1,000 owl painting

51:30 Dot painting and yet another hobby

52:15 Hot yoga

53:30 Guided meditation has too many steps

56:30 The journals

58:45 The referral nobody called

60:30 Just let me reschedule by text

61:45 Redoing the whole wardrobe

63:30 Why can’t women just choose a hysterectomy

67:00 Ten years of asking

68:15 Nobody to take care of but me

69:30 Jade wants an orange cat

70:30 Wrap up

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