In this episode, Jakob and Johanne reflect on the It’s Complicated tour and share what they've learned—about the joys of slow, community-rooted growth, the rise of AI in therapy, and why staying human matters more than ever. From therapist concerns about disappearing client referrals to the ethics of digital twins, we ask: how do we differentiate real connection from artificial care?

In this episode of A Complicated Story, Jakob and Johanne reconnect after navigating the challenge of living in different countries with mismatched school holidays. They catch up on recent endeavours —Jakob’s time in Stockholm, updates on the It’s Complicated conference agenda, and reflections on what "manifestos" mean to them. Tune in for thoughtful conversations, personal insights, and a behind-the-scenes look at their ongoing work with It’s Complicated.

In this episode of A Complicated Story, Jakob and Johanne reflect on building It’s Complicated with a community-focused approach, an ethos that hit an all-time high with the recent completion of their community fundraise. They discuss professionalism versus authenticity, what it means to "throw stones" and "punch upwards", and how to make room for personal passions. Tune in for honest insights and a collaborative spirit.