Nancy and Sarah are going to talk about L-O-V-E, and Nancy thinks she knows what it is, but Sarah (who just wrote a book on this topic) is pretty certain she can’t define what it is, nor can anyone, not in its many-tentacled forms.

First the ladies talk French protests, a hunger for rage and then a documentary about designer John Galliano, who soared in the fashion heavens like few others and crashed down just as hard. A blackout-induced tirade on the (what else?) the Jews in 2011 turned him into a proto cancellation story. Sarah has thoughts! For that matter, so does Nancy. And who doesn’t love Kate Moss after this doc?

Also discussed:

* John Cusack, the right kind of sexy in Say Anything

* “Pneumonic plague” not on our bingo cards

* Nancy has a visceral reaction to wool spun from Wallace’s fur

* Katie Herzog! Fifth Column! Meghan Daum! Laura McKowen! Sarah’s on fire.

* “Nobody can sing that song because it’s meant to be thumped.”

* The “small sweetness”: A debate!

* Sarah on fashion: “You don’t get to play this game, Shorty.”

* Nancy is the Kate Moss of this podcast?

Plus, our best-ever Halloween costumes, Bridget Phetasy is Joe Rogan-ing, the first (only?) Meow-atarian candidate, and much more!

John Galliano just launched a line with Zara. Girls like pretty dresses!

Smoke ‘Em sends the biggest birthday wishes to the wondrous one, a.k.a., Nancy’s daughter. Tavie, we love you madly xx