What if the secret to creativity was hidden inside something as simple as a sandwich — or the playlist on your morning run?

In this energizing episode, Ikey Ajavon sits down with Annie Odell, a creative thinker who believes deeply in intentional curiosity, the power of zoning out, and the joy of crafting your own creative space.

Together they explore why creativity is essential for everyone, not just artists, and discuss practical ways to spark and sustain your creative energy. Annie shares her relatable experiences with burnout, social media, and finding happiness through small, intentional practices she calls the “Four Points of Happiness.”

From navigating social media's impact on our creativity, to balancing personal passion and paid work, this episode delivers fresh perspectives on how to make creativity accessible, enjoyable, and genuinely nourishing.

In this episode:

• Why zoning out is crucial to your creative process.

• How intentional curiosity can transform your work (and life).

• Annie’s playful “sandwich theory” of creativity.

• Practical ways to find happiness through intentional creative actions.

• Tips for balancing creativity, passion, and professional demands.

• The art of creating spaces that fuel your best ideas.

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