What if the secret to a thriving marriage isn’t about being perfect—but about “breaking boundaries” through vulnerability, honest role-playing, and truly going all-in… no matter how different your backgrounds?

In this episode of Marriage of Greatness, hosts Evan Money and Susan Money pull back the curtain for an unfiltered, deep-dive conversation with powerhouse couple Percy Thaba and Ashley Thaba—missionary leaders impacting marriages across Africa. You'll be surprised by what you'll discover about marriage, faith, culture, and perseverance.

Key Highlights:

• The Thabas get raw about the real challenges (and sometimes hilarious realities) of navigating menopause, overwork, and marital conflict resolution strategies—including the role-playing techniques they swear by.

• Hear how Ashley, a Southern belle from Georgia, and Percy, a Botswana native, overcame staggering cultural and familial differences, building a ministry together that defied all odds.

• Discover powerful lessons on balancing personal ambition, family needs, and spiritual calling—plus why “all in” is the only way for marriages to thrive.

• The couples get candid about money, pride, forgiveness, and why learning to say “we” instead of “me” changed everything.

• Stay for the fun twist: who would play Percy and Ashley in a Hollywood film about their wild, boundary-breaking journey? (Hint: Denzel Washington makes a cameo.)

Sprinkled throughout are actionable takeaways, laughter, and hope-filled wisdom for every stage of marriage—even when breaking the glass ceiling means giving it all away for a higher purpose.

Episode Timestamped Overview

• [00:00:02] Meet Percy and Ashley Thaba—how an unexpected connection led to this powerhouse interview.

• [00:01:05] Welcome & vision—learn why this podcast is more than your average marriage interview.

• [00:02:19] The backstory—how a Southern belle and a Botswana native build a life & ministry together.

• [00:05:15] Top 3 things they appreciate most about each other—truth bombs and sweet surprises.

• [00:11:09] Discerning God’s will vs. personal ambition—lessons from the “balloon and string” analogy.

• [00:16:13] Real talk about resentment, role play, and conflict resolution.

• [00:24:09] The power of grace—why giving space to process matters in love.

• [00:27:06] Breaking the taboo: Navigating menopause and intimacy after 20+ years.

• [00:31:01] Workaholism, boundaries, and the tyranny of the urgent—finding balance for the whole family.

• [00:39:08] Creating rhythms for connection—mission-driven marriage and parenting through seasons.

• [00:43:03] Biggest marriage advice—how expecting complexity and “role playing” built a foundation stronger than their differences.

• [00:45:38] Finances, identity, oneness, and the power of “we.”

• [00:56:11] Hollywood dream cast—who’d play Percy and Ashley?

• [01:02:29] Where to follow the Thabas’ work and an invitation for marriage breakthroughs.

Get ready for radical honesty, laughter, and a masterclass in “Marriage of Greatness.”