What if hitting rock bottom isn’t the end, but the turning point? In part three of the Heart of the Hero series, Sanna and Scott explore the middle stage of the journey of what Joseph Campbell calls the “innermost cave.” This stage, often marked by despair, setbacks, or rock bottom moments, is also where the deepest growth and transformation take place.

Using stories from their own lives, including Scott’s career-ending football injury and Sanna’s perfectionist struggles, they show how challenges can become teachers, opportunities, and springboards into resilience. This conversation helps listeners reframe hardship not as the end, but as the turning point toward becoming bigger than the challenge itself.

What you will learn:

• The meaning of the “innermost cave” and why it is both the hardest and most beautiful stage of the Hero’s Journey.
• How rock bottom moments can be powerful turning points for personal transformation.
• The choice between staying in victimhood or cracking open to a bigger, more resilient self.
• Practical ways to stay calm and centered when life feels overwhelming.
• Why acceptance and patience often lead to breakthroughs that overthinking cannot.
• The importance of shifting beliefs to change how you feel and reclaim your power.
• Four key lessons from Sanna’s “cave work.”
• How hardship can build resilience and confidence over time.
• Why surrounding yourself with supportive people makes the journey more rewarding.

Resources for Sanna Calvert:

SannaCalvert.com

Foundation for Family and Community Healing

Resources for Scott Frank:

LinkedIn

Peach Harmony and Joy Alliance