07 - Drop the Armor: Curiosity, Humility, and the Courage to Go 10x Deeper
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07 - Drop the Armor: Curiosity, Humility, and the Courage to Go 10x Deeper
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Joe welcomes a longtime friend Matthew Curtis (now leading digital experiences at Ford) for a candid, grounded conversation about burnout, bravery, and becoming.
They unpack the shift from achievement-at-all-costs to authentic leadership, the difference between reinvention and rediscovery, and how humility turns empathy into action at work and at home.
From therapy and coaching to Viktor Frankl, from office-kitchen anthropology (who really takes the last slice of cake?) to building products people actually want, this episode explores how dropping the mask creates real connection, better decisions, and a life that scales inward before it scales outward.
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