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Those Who Leave and Those Who Stay

The Neapolitan Novels, Book 3
Lu par : Hillary Huber
Série : The Neapolitan Novels, Volume 3
Durée : 16 h et 43 min
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The incredible story continues in book three of the critically acclaimed Neapolitan novels! 

In this third Neapolitan novel, Elena and Lila, the two girls whom were first introduced in My Brilliant Friend, have become women. Lila married at 16 and has a young son; she has left her husband and the comforts her marriage brought and now works as a common laborer. Elena has left the neighborhood, earned her college degree, and published a successful novel, all of which has opened the doors to a world of learned interlocutors and richly furnished salons. Both women are pushing against the walls of a prison that would have seen them living a life of misery, ignorance, and submission. They are afloat on the great sea of opportunities that opened up during the 1970s. Yet they are still very much bound to each other by a strong, unbreakable bond.

©2015 Elena Ferrante (P)2015 Blackstone Audio, Inc.

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  • RI in Canada
  • 28/04/2016

Hooked on the series

The story of Elena and Lila is addictive. This volume focuses more on Elena and her marriage, and her struggle to find a voice as a woman apart from men -- something she resolutely fails to do despite her emerging feminist longings. Lila's life in the violent world of working-class Naples provides a physical counterpoint to the emotional resistance in the world of Elena. Captivating. Don't start listening unless you have the hours to devote to it.

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  • Lori
  • 17/12/2015

It's finally picking up a bit in book 3

This is the 3rd in the 4 book series and so far, this is my favorite one (though I'm still not as enamored as most of the reviewers here). It gives more insight into Lila and why everyone thinks she's so fabulous. It also gives a glimpse into the feminist movement in the 70s in Italy- the thoughts and actions of women breaking ground for the future freedoms of female sexuality, and men's reactions having to come to terms with strong women. We still find Elena insecure and envious and Lila is still mean, so I wonder how they stayed friends throughout the years. I guess because it takes place before the "get rid of the toxic people in your life" mantra. Again, Ferrante has a way of writing that gives the characters authenticity and the scenes a reality and feel I don't get from most books. Not that it's over the top description; that's not it at all. But it's one of those books that imprints itself somehow, even though, or perhaps because the stories of these lives hit very close to home. As for the narrator, I don't know that I'll ever be able to listen to this narrator again. It's too slow and lacking feeling, though it is starting to seem to fit the character of the books. I listen on 1.5 so as not to go crazy or fall into a stupor.

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  • Jess
  • 17/06/2018

Can't get enough of this series

I'm at work listening, doing assembly work and rushing to turn down the volume anytime someone comes in the room, just in case a racy part starts. There's only men who work here so it already sounds like I'm listening to something elicit, if only because a woman is speaking. How Elena Ferrante delves into sexism and classism rings true here, working in a factory, surrounded by machismo, 40+ years after the time her novel is set.

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  • Beth Hale
  • 03/02/2020

Not One Likable character!

I have slogged through these 3 books that everyone raves about, thinking it was the last one. I got so annoyed that I was about to just stop, but I saw I only had 5 hours to go, so I finished it. Then I found out that there is still another in the series that is equally long. This one leaves the reader hanging, and I’ve only recently learned that these were intended to be read as a single book! I cannot imagine. I’m not saying the author is not exceptional, but I hated every character! I felt compassion for some of them, but wanted to scream at them, “Don’t DO that, you idiot!”, all of the time! I don’t want to spend 18 hours listening to the 4th book, but I guess I’ll have to if I want to know how it ends. I really don’t want to spend a credit on it though.

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  • A. M. Hopkins
  • 10/04/2016

Strangely addictive, BUT ...

While a few of the main characters are explored in depth, the vast majority of the series is spent in their heads. Lots of angst, little momentum. Too much telling, not enough showing. The stories provide a very up-close and personal view of two damaged women growing up without seeming to learn much or grow from their constant pain. I am very confused about why they are critically acclaimed. Seems like lazy storytelling to me.

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  • Jane
  • 21/01/2016

The bridge between the past and the present

The third novel in the Neapolitan quartet acts as something of a bridge - between past and present; even between two kinds of living - the old ways and the new. Intriguing and unresolved, the rush to read the final installment hastens on.

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  • Paula
  • 10/11/2015

Decent novel ruined by narration

What could have made this a 4 or 5-star listening experience for you?

All my friends who read the books have devoured them. But I found that listening to Huber's dispassionate narration ruined much of the atmosphere. Her voice is overly refined and lacks nuance--- these are passionate hardscrabble Neapolitans, telling a story of friendship, political turmoil, betrayal-- and the narrator sounds as if she could be reading Peter Rabbit.

How would you have changed the story to make it more enjoyable?

Change the narrator

What didn’t you like about Hillary Huber’s performance?

See above. She is too cultured, too even a voice for the turmoil of the novel.

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  • Crg
  • 09/11/2018

Depressing

Although I had read the other two books, this book was do depressing and in some ways upsetting that I would never recommend it... the characters all are flawed. I kept hoping they would grow and learn but they did not... they were hopeless and without hope

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  • RDP
  • 02/11/2015

Can't relate

The main character of this novel and narrator has lost my interest. She whines and obsesses, and her relation with her friends and family has gotten more inexplicable. I hope the tetralogy recovers in the fourth novel the candor, compassion, and narrative spark it had in volume one, which I found masterful.

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  • GR
  • 13/08/2020

Interesting History

This was a continuation of My Brilliant Friend. I liked the HBO Sessions I watched, and expected more about their friendship. Too much of her writing was spent on writing about her undecisiveness that made me feel like you need to stop overthinking everything and get to the point. I learned more about the history of Italy than of the friendship in their lives. Actually I was okay with the history and some of the upheavals in their relationship were interesting. However, the ending was a big let down that did not make sense. Such a disappointing end!

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  • Birgit
  • 26/06/2017

I couldn't wait for the German translation

... so I ordered the English one. I was rewarded with a gripping continuation of the story of Elena and Lila, and a very well read one.