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The Fiery Cross

Outlander, Book 5
Lu par : Davina Porter
Série : Outlander, Volume 5
Durée : 55 h et 30 min
Catégories : Anglais - Fiction, Historical
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The year is 1771. Claire Randall is still an outlander, out of place and out of time. But now she is linked by love to her only anchor: Jamie Fraser. They have crossed oceans and centuries to build a life together in North Carolina. But tensions, both ancient and recent, threaten members of their clan.

Knowing that his wife has the gift of prophecy, James must believe Claire, though he would prefer not to. Claire has shared a dreadful truth: there will, without a doubt, be a war. Her knowledge of the oncoming revolution is a flickering torch that may light his way through perilous years ahead - or ignite a conflagration that will leave their lives in ashes.

©2001 Diana Gabaldon (P)2002 Recorded Books, LLC

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  • Sheri
  • 03/03/2012

Death is in the details

The Outlander was a masterpiece in historical fiction with a touch of science fiction thrown in (time travel) that raced along on a merry adventure. Sadly, in her subsequent books, Gabaldon seems to be trying to drown her readers in volumes of minutia.

Listening to The Fiery Cross is painful - there is simply too much detail (I don't care about every tiny thought the characters have!) and the story moves too slowly.

A certain level of detail of daily life in the time period is engaging, but when it interferes with the progression of the characters and brings all adventure to a halt, I become frustrated and quit.

I slogged through 4 of 7 parts and I may be done...I may skip ahead to part 7 to see how this book wraps up. I can do that, knowing I likely will not have missed anything of substance in between.

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  • Monica
  • 29/05/2013

took the long way around

The entire story could be told in five minutes -- but it took this book more than 30 hours to do it.
It wasn't a horrible book because if you have come this far you have grown to love the characters. But, not a whole lot really happens. There is a lot of the characters we have grown to love going through their every day lives... dayyyy byyyyy dayyyyy.

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  • Anne
  • 08/03/2012

Something that had to be gotten through

I have been thoroughly enjoying the Outlander series. The first book, "Outlander" was just brilliant, and I also liked "Dragonfly in Amber" quite a bit. "Voyager" left a bit to be desired and "Drums of Autumn" was a good story but had slowed down the storyline and needed an editor badly. Gabaldon has become enamored of deeetaaaaaiil. She clearly does a lot of research into the subjects she writes about, even including excruciating detail about how things smell and what seasickness is like and the diets of Scottish farmers and... well... a lot of detail.

And in "The Fiery Cross" she really let loose. It's almost as if she can't help herself. It took several hours just to get through the first day of the novel. The book is much, much too long and clearly is intended as a transition to get the reader into the life of Jamie and Claire in the American wilderness. But there were many places where I just wanted them to MOVE ON ALREADY.

Why did I continue listening? Well, principally because Davina Porter is an absolute genius at narrating these books. I cannot praise her enough. She is simply perfectly brilliant. She has the wonderful Scots brogue down pat, and it contrasts beautifully with British accents she uses - several different ones. And her Scots brogue is distinctly different from her Irish brogue. And she delivers non-English as if she were a native speaker of each of the languages, from Gaelic to French to Mohawk to Iroquois. She even figured out how to deliver French spoken with a Gaelic accent! The only thing she can't do is American English. The Americans in the novel all ended up sounding like British. But that's OK. I'd listen to these books just to listen to her amazing skill and range.

I finished because I had to move on to "The Fiery Cross" as I'm not ready to abandon this wonderful saga. Gabaldon is that amazing a writer.

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  • Carol
  • 19/01/2013

Life on the Frontier Is Difficult. Duh.

I turned my nose up at the Outlander series for years, thinking that these books were nothing more than silly, schlocky romances. It was the listener reviews on Audible that convinced me to try the first book in the series, and *much* to my surprise I became an enthusiastic fan, both of this series and of the complementary series by Gabaldon that features Lord John Grey.

Davina Porter's wonderful narration makes the audio versions of these books better than their print incarnations. I also find Jeff Woodman's interpretation of the Grey novels delightful.

Loved "Outlander" and "Dragonfly in Amber." Thought "Voyager" was the best of the series so far, and indeed rank it as one of the most enjoyable books I've ever listened to. "Drums of Autumn" was a bit of a letdown, partly because "Voyager" was so good and partly because of the prominence of the character I have come to think of as "Bratty Brianna" (actually I use another adjective, but not on a public site). But "Drums" had an action-packed story that kept me turning the pages (or the audio equivalent).

"The Fiery Cross," unfortunately, moves more slowly than an icebound Highland stream in January. The detailed descriptions of the difficult everyday life on the American frontier in 1771--a time without toilet tissue or disposable diapers, as we learn in not one but several accounts of baby Jem's "exploits"--take up far more than is reasonable of the massive page count in this book, which lacks the edge-of-your seat action of Jamie and Claire's previous adventures. Brianna is still around. She has become a little less bratty now that she's reunited with Roger (nothing wrong with Roger except that he's not Jamie Frasier), but the constant references to her breast milk got nauseating.

The next book in the series, "A Breath of Snow and Ashes," is in my library, but I'm going to wait and bit and rest up from (or perhaps, better, try and wake up from) the Fiery Cross before moving on. The reviews seem to indicate ABoSaA is a better story, so I'll keep going.

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  • jaspersu
  • 16/11/2011

Unabridged, alright.

Seriously. After waiting all this time for the unabridged audible version, I finally got started listening to this and am now thinking abridgment might not be such a bad thing. I am pretty sure that fewer than 8 hours of time in the story pass in the first 8 hours of the recording. I got very impatient for the story to start moving, and when it finally seemed to get along, the multiple storylines separate and backtrack over the same time again. I am still only to part 3 of the recording, but at 16 hours in, it isn't too early to say that even fans are going to need a lot of patience with this book.

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  • Nicole D
  • 22/07/2015

boring - abandoned any of the original premise

Mostly boring. I've listened to the other 4, had to get through this one. I like the characters but the story isn't compelling enough anymore to keep me caring about what happens to them next. Not interested in farm life in North Carolina in the 1770s. Yawn.

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  • Kelly Howard
  • 16/07/2013

few little gripes, but another great one

Probably anyone who's gotten this far in the Outlander series is doing it as a labor of love (& they're definitely best done in order), so overall it gets 5 stars, even if 4/4 doesn't seem to lead to 5. My minor gripes with this entry in this wonderful, absurdly bloated epic (& they said Stephen King was too wordy!) don't keep me from basically thinking it's great; terrific story, great characters, great history, great performance.

The gripes:
1. With the story itself; we see more of Bree in this one, & it ain't all pretty. The tantrums & snits she comes up with are not at all surprising, considering what her mother said & did at times (but she grew out of it), but they're even scarier coming from an Amazon like 6-foot tall Brianna. She tends to punch when someone --usually tho not always, poor ole, good ole Roger-- gets her mad (which is not difficult). The girl is in serious need of anger management. It makes her considerably less of a sympathetic character to me. Granted, she has some major things to deal with, but it doesn't justify her beating up her man....& then she turns around & hesitates be mean to someone who really deserves it (like S Bonnet).

2. The narration: Davina Porter does a truly awesome job yet again, but...at times in this entry she slides just over the line & becomes a bit overwrought. She still is spot on with the characters' voices & dialogue, but this time she has a tendency to over-dramatize text --the 'stage directions,' as it were. Such as when the thunder crashes, she really bears down on the CRASHED. Sorta like; ...the..night..passed...slowly... and then thedaypassedquickly. Rather as one reads a bedtime story to a young child, with LOTS of emphasis & acting out of words. It's not drastic, just somewhat short of the very-near perfect touch of her performances of the earlier books.

My one last gripe is that Claire & Brianna both tend to totally ignore the fact that they are in a completely different world than that of the 20th century. They just stomp around as if it's 1968 America, like huge loud, quintessential "ugly" Americans crashing a formal tea ceremony & demanding some dang burgers & a beer & Honey get me a real chair, I ain't gonna sit on the floor & where's the TV! Claire & Bree are basically on an alien planet... & then they get mad at the 'natives' when some huge communication gap yawns because they've completely steamrolled social custom & the mores of the time. They repeatedly forget that people ended up dead a lot in the 18th century for far less provocation than they offer at times; just chatting someone of the opposite sex at a party could lead to guys dead at dawn, but neither of them really pays much attention to what comes out of their mouths.

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  • Marcia
  • 16/07/2012

Least Enjoyed of the Series

This book wasn’t for you, but who do you think might enjoy it more?

I can't answer this question.

What was most disappointing about Diana Gabaldon’s story?

I am disappointed because the book is 'short' on story, and 'long' on her attempts of ribald writing meant I'm sure to stimulate the senses.The book is also peppered with many unduly long and discriptive passages about things like vomiting -- please. We get the idea.

What does Davina Porter bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?

I find the book distasteful compared to the others in this Outlander series. I actually prefer the read book, because I can - and have FREQUENTLY - pressed the icon to move to the next chapter - and skip whats left in the chapter I'm on. This is the FIRST book I've done that with - typically, I've hung on every word, and would never fast forward on the others in the series, as I do with this one.

You didn’t love this book... but did it have any redeeming qualities?

Not yet.

Any additional comments?

I have a few parts to go. I'm hanging in to see if the very feeble storyline improves and gives me a reason to buy/listen to the next and last book in the series.

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  • DawnB
  • 03/11/2011

THANK YOU!!!

It is about time The Fiery Cross was made available in the unabridged version!!! I love this whole series and was devastated at the abridged version of this book! It was total butchery! Diana is an amazing writer encompassing history and romance with action/adventure, myths and legends and time travel all within an amazing story! And NO ONE could narrate these books other than Davina Porter! Her ability to give each of the characters their own distinct voice allows the reader to know who is speaking without being told and she has a firm grasp on each personality so that it makes the listener feel as if they are not only a part of the story but a part of the family as well. Can't wait for book 8!!!

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  • Meaghan Bynum
  • 04/11/2011

Finally it's here!

This has been a long time coming. For me, it's been 3 years of requesting this at least once a week. Fantastic series with a fantastic reader. Now I can finish the series and see what happens to all the characters. Thank you audible for making this available.
For new readers, I strongly recommend starting with Outlander and working your way forward. What I love about these books is that they don't fit into any specific genre. There's romance, bloodshed, betrayal, time travel, Etc., but please don't let the fact that this is a bit of a science fiction read discourage you from trying it out because there's so much more to this series. I mean, who can resist a scottish warrior.:) I myself finished Outlander in 2 weeks, and that was during my Freshman year of college, and it happened to be the end of the semester.
As I've said, these books are very different which is hard to find these days. Davina Porter is an AMAZING narrator also. Like I say, start with Outlander if you are new to this series and don't let the fact that this book is list in the sci-fi category discourage you from at least trying it.

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  • bahrdie!
  • 09/02/2017

I'm addicted

Can't stop listening - excellently narrated, plot and story wonderfully composed by Mrs. Gabaldon - I love it

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  • Utilisateur anonyme
  • 23/08/2019

I loves the book and Davina's reading

I have read all of Diana's books and really love them. And Davina makes them even better with her ability to give every character his own voice.

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  • Utilisateur anonyme
  • 16/05/2019

Loved it

Davina Porter does a great job. Loved to learn english listening to her and how she can vary her voice and accent. Story ist also great, especially of course for real fans of the Outlander books and series.

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  • C. Hoffmann
  • 25/03/2019

Es steht ein Krieg vor der Tür

Dies ist nicht mein Lieblingsband, was nicht zuletzt daran liegt, das sich das erste Viertel des Buches zieht und zieht, da reißt auch Davina Porter (wie immer super) nichts raus. Neue Freunde, alte Feinde, die Familie vergrößert, schlagen sich Jamie und Claire damit herum, ob und wann man die amerikanische Revolution, die vor der Tür steht, unterstützen soll. Bemerkenswert ist auch, wie die Reihe eine Bresche für Sex im Alter schlägt, beide sind hier mittlerweile Anfang und Mitte 50 und die Begierde lässt nicht nach. Claire als Charakter kann einem manchmal etwas auf die Nerven gehen, aber na gut, jeder hat mal miese Tage. Hier muss man langsam auch ein Faible für Geschichte haben, sonst quält man sich durch diesen Band.

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  • CrisetenO
  • 16/01/2019

Loved it, though reading could be improved

I love the Outlander books, and this is no exception: the story is well-written, though probably one of Diana Gabaldon's less factual and more sentimental books in the series. There are lots of metaphors she systematically uses here that she did not in previous books, especially when she is describing sensations or feelings. Yet, the plot line is clear and very well written, and I enjoyed it tremendously. I also typically enjoy Davina Porter's reading (I've also listened to her reading Anne Perry books). She also has a knack for the pronunciation of Scots English -- though apart from Jamie's and Roger's Scots English, she only does do 1-2 more accents. I have only two things that bother me in her reading of this particular book: 1) sometimes she puts too much emotion in her voice, especially when I think it would be more effective to make that voice completely emotionless and flat (one example -- SPOILER -- is when she is talking to Roget after his mishap and he wants to try talking some later, leading her to leave the room. Roger's torment here is quiet and it's better served by an emptiness in the voice, rather than a strangled emotion) 2) her pronunciation of many of the foreign languages is (I'm sorry to say) quite terrible. I don't really understand, nor speak Gallic, so I can't judge any of that; however, her German is hard to understand even for a person who has lived for many years in Germany and speaks that language fluently (thus being able to guess many of the words). Same for the French. I wouldn't mind it quite so much if it did not make up quite a lot of the book. Still, an overall excellent performance and a lovely book. I recommend it for all fans of historical fiction.

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  • papercuts1
  • 30/01/2018

Schwächstes Buch der Reihe, aber ein Muss

„The Fiery Cross“ ist das schwächste Buch der gesamten „Outlander“-Reihe und verdient jede Menge Kritik. Für den so gut wie nicht vorhandenen Plot, für die völlige Überfrachtung mit unwichtigen, sich wiederholenden Details und Endlosbeschreibungen sollte man Diana Gabaldon ebenso die Ohren langziehen wie ihrer Lektorin. Und warum Galabdon damit beginnt, mit den Hauptfiguren der Geschichte – Claire und Jamie Fraser – das Herz der Reihe zugunster wesentlich weniger überzeugender Figuren aus dem Zentrum zu rücken, werde ich nie begreifen.

Der Vollständigkeit halber, aufgrund sonst fehlender Zusammenhänge und wegen des einschneidenden Erlebnisses eines Protagonisten sollte man „The Fiery Cross“ dennoch lesen. Davina Porter, die fantastische Sprecherin der englischen Hörbuch-Reihe, holt aus dem langatmigen Schinken zudem alles raus, was machbar ist und ringt ihm Unterhaltungswert ab.

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  • Nika Beau
  • 13/05/2017

glücklicherweise wenigstens in englisch ungekürzt

Was hat Ihnen das Hörerlebnis von The Fiery Cross besonders unterhaltsam gemacht?

ich muß mich erst reinhören ins englische, da ich etwas eingerostet bin,
aber die deutschen Teile 4-7 sind ja leider gekürzt und Teil 5 gibt es hier gar nicht....
Schade schade
na ja dann versuche ich es mal......die Sprecherin hat eine angenehme, ausdrucksvolle Stimme, die Geschichte ist bekanntermaßen spannend( Buch)
und dieser schottische Akzent kommt unglaublich gut (geht in deutsch natürlich nicht :) )
also, wer sich mal wieder üben möchte,es lohnt sich

Was wäre für andere Hörer sonst noch hilfreich zu wissen, um das Hörbuch richtig einschätzen zu können?

ich habe die deutschen Hörbücher nebenbei gehört, bei den englischen muß ich deutlich besser zuhören

  • Global
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  • Oliver
  • 19/04/2017

sehr empfehlenswert für Geschichtsfreaks

Spannend, rührend, gut recherchiert...

Besonders gut: sprachliche Umsetzung der verschiedenen Sprecher und der verschiedenen Akzente/Sprachen

Einziger Minuspunkt: die Zeitreise/supernatural happenings

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    5 out of 5 stars
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  • Mareike
  • 18/03/2012

Finally

Endlich ist es da. Der fünfte Teil der schottischen Reihe in ungekürzter Version.
Wie immer ist Davina Porter grandios.
Mehr braucht man gar nicht zu sagen außer vielleicht: Kaufen,Kaufen, Kaufen.
Der Preis ist hoch aber es lohnt sich.

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