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Maps of Meaning

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Jordan B. Peterson's Maps of Meaning is now available for the first time as an audio download!  

Why have people from different cultures and eras formulated myths and stories with similar structures? What does this similarity tell us about the mind, morality, and structure of the world itself? From the author of 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos comes a provocative hypothesis that explores the connection between what modern neuropsychology tells us about the brain and what rituals, myths, and religious stories have long narrated. A cutting-edge work that brings together neuropsychology, cognitive science, and Freudian and Jungian approaches to mythology and narrative, Maps of Meaning presents a rich theory that makes the wisdom and meaning of myth accessible to the critical modern mind.

Includes a PDF of Images from the book.

PLEASE NOTE: When you purchase this title, the accompanying reference material will be available in your Library section along with the audio.

©2002 Jordan B. Peterson (P)2018 Random House Audio

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Travail titanesque

Une œuvre d'une richesse vertigineuse, d'une importance capitale pour la recherche dans ce domaine complexe qu'est la psyché humaine.
Le sujet traité est complexe donc il faut de la concentration pour suivre efficacement. L'anglais est très bien articulé. Chaque mot de chaque phrase est choisi avec précision et nous guide dans la réflexion.
Je ne peux qu'être admiratif devant ce travail gigantesque. Je recommande ce livre audio.

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Le plus important penseur vivant

dans ce livre on retrouve l'essence de la pensé du grand psychologue .Ce texte est immanquable.

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  • Stephen W
  • 19/06/2018

This is NOT an easy book

Jordan Peterson has claimed on twitter (multiple times) that 12 Rules for Life is a good introduction to Maps of Meaning.

Bullsh*t.

This book is FAR more difficult to follow than 12 Rules. It wasn't written for the general public. It's in a different galaxy.

It is, however, a great book, but I can tell I'm going to have to listen to it at least twice to absorb what Peterson is saying.

If you love JBP, you'll enjoy this book, but be warned: this milkshake is extremely thick.

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 05/07/2018

profound.

Over the last couple years Dr. Peterson has come into his own and to the attention of the general public with his beliefs which resonates with many conservatives. His detractors would dismiss him and his views and just assume he's just another unintelligent right wing fear mongerer. I've seen videos with people utterly dismissing his ideas because they are of another political view.

Listening to this book, you begin to realize that Dr. Peterson thinks at a higher level than most people. His political opinions have been formed not out of personal agenda, rather from deep philosophical understanding of how we as humans come to the beliefs we do. This book is a mix between developmental psychology, philosophy, anthropology, and sociology. Our beliefs and reactions to what is happening in the world around us (the unknown) has been shaped by centuries of myths that effect the culture around us. You also begin to realize just how intelligent and profound his thinking is. When he formulates an opinion, you can be sure, he's not shooting off the hip, rather he has processed his opinion at a much higher level that 99.9% of his detractors would ever consider.

That being said, this would be much better read than listened to. This doesn't follow like a lecture, but rather a text book. I often times caught myself flipping back 30 seconds to have him repeat a statement because what he just read was so complicated and profound, I needed to hear it a few times in order to process it properly. I have a degree in psychology and still find it difficult to fully grasp some of his statements at first pass.

At times the material is dry. It is still necessary as he formulates arguments. But I find my mind drifiting. Unless I give it my full attention, I often have to back up and re-listen to sections. This is not background sound, but something that demands full engagement.

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  • Cutty
  • 22/06/2018

PDF Available on Actual Computer

I haven't finished the book yet (will revise review), but I couldn't respond to other reviews so I'm putting the info here. I couldn't find the PDF on my phone, but managed to find it on my computer in the browser. Check your library; under "Download," it should say "View PDF."

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  • Open Mind
  • 12/06/2018

Life Changing Book

Having read both this and 12 rules for life has been extremely transformative for me. As a 27 year old man, I feel like I now have a path and a guide to lead a meaningful life. I will be listening to this audiobook for many years to come. Also, I am very happy that Peterson decided to do the narration, its like he is talking to me directly. :)

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  • Joel C S
  • 08/07/2018

Brilliant Seminal Work (Figures Unreadable)

Maps of meaning is a seminal work that for the first time integrates modern scientific reasoning with the worlds of mythology, religion, psychology, neurology, and philosophy. It explains how the underlying "animal" brain of homo sapiens has become the vessel for human cognition as we now understand it; and how culture and values, even unstated and not understood by those who carry them, are transmitted and disseminated from mind to mind, across society, and through time in the evolution of culture.

For most readers who are not students of arcane mythology and theology, much of the middle part of the book is a tedious academic treatment that beats the dead horse of the author's well proven thesis, but the author should be excused for the unrelenting assault in this magnum opus as the concepts he presents are scientifically and philosophically revolutionary and "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

The Audible reading is well performed by the author, but a major problem with the Audible presentation is the poor quality of the accompanying pdf diagrams, many of which contain text or detail which is simply not legible. Why not redraw the artwork with high resolution images?

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  • Luke E. Smith
  • 10/07/2018

Shocking. Shockingly good. Holy...

Jordan Peterson says this work is a tough read. I beg to differ.

After churning though what feels like ancient tomes of philosophy for the past months, listening to this feels absolutely exhilarating. Lets go through some points - 1. Penned in my native language (the awkward cadence of translation is not to be found here!) 2. Succinct scientific approach to some of the most mulled over epistemology and moral, and general philosophy questions of all time. Compared to the works of Nietzsche I've combed through - though absolutely packed with brilliance - the relative ease of understanding in this book feels like thick, viscous, pure intellectual heroine!!!! I do not say this lightly!

I love how Peterson nests Psychology with it's undoubtedly kindred discipline, philosophy. As a psychology major, hearing him use the terminology I've learned really helps integrate the knowledge into my sort of "mushy grey database". Eloquently put, yeah.

Sorry, needless to say I'm a bit excited over the book. Currently I'm 6 and 1/2 hours in, and going strong. Thank you so much for this insanely erudite and lucid work! Please though, you don't need to be so humble!

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  • Anonymous User
  • 25/06/2018

Amazingly told

this definitely shook and rattled my understanding of meaning. often required me to take a pause and think, sometimes hear a chapter over again upon reflecting the contents of it. great book and thank you Jordan B. Peterson for all your work.

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  • Josh and Yvonne
  • 17/06/2018

Pure Gold

Holds up 18 years later, Dr Peterson at his best, narration couldn't be any better

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  • TheProFam
  • 21/06/2018

Get ready for some heavy mental exercise

I have listened to many of Jordan Peterson's lectures and listened to the 12 Rules for Life. This audiobook is much heavier and more detailed than most of the previous material.

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  • Jason Kirkendoll
  • 31/07/2018

Enjoyed this one thoroughly

It took a few hours to settle into the style and pace of the book. Once Jordan settled into mythic narrative references and their psychological significance, the book sped along and it was very interesting. Would definitely recommend.

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  • Matter of Personal Opinion
  • 05/07/2018

Unbelievable

This book is an absolute masterpiece. Also, it is way more accessible as an audio version. It is one hell of a book, but unspeakably helpful to create heaven on earth (speaking as an atheist)!

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  • Sebastian Schüler
  • 04/08/2018

One of my favourites

I'm kind of a fan since his appearance at the H3H3 podcast.
This and his other book "12 rules for life" really go in depth and I recommend reading both / listening to both.

Even tho I bought the book physically - I enjoyed listening to the author reading the book. He really emphasizes on things that seem important to him.

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  • Paul K.
  • 26/02/2019

Unfassbar

Peterson hat nach eigener Aussage jeden Satz mindesten 50 mal neu geschrieben und das merkt man auch. Nahezu jeder Satz enthält so viel Informationen das man, verliert man auch nur kurz die Aufmerksamkeit, unfassbar wichtige Dinge verpasst.

Ich hab schon 12 Rules vor Life 5 mal gehört, dieses Buch werde ich wohl 10 mal hören müssen.
Aber es lohnt sich.
Für die "westlichen" Menschen unserer Zeit gibt kein wertvolleres Buch.

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  • HelleBrezel
  • 31/03/2019

New perspective

JBP is a man not always easy to understand. As a non English native speaker some examples of professional psychology stuff are pretty tough.

After having seen hours of his discussions on YouTube and after finishing his 12 rules for life (easier to comprehend) now maps of meaning gives a profound answer to the question whether he believes in god or is a Christian. If more religious people or "dogma members" adapted his style of a religious life, I would be a lot concerned about the world.
What really amazes me is his style of integration: it is not culminating in a "we against them"; almost every culture has contributed something of worth that can be integrated in this view which does not consider others and older generations as primitive and stupid.

Some people might criticize is style of citing people like C G Jung (and others) over and over again, reading lots of Bible verses and discussing alchemy.
Personally, I liked the interpretations of different narratives a lot.

When one thinks about meaning of life and what we should do here, JBP does a good job for people who can handle his eloquence and keep up with attention (not easy).
People who have always hated interpretation in school (" what does the author mean by XY?") might make their peace since almost everything comes readily interpreted (still to reflect on by oneself!).

I recommend this book to all individuals, who want to grow and thrive in this world, knowing that it won't be a a party all the time.

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  • José
  • 24/12/2018

Dense with brilliant insights

Definitely not an overview, a scholarly work on the human mind, its motivation and its fears

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  • Hans-Jürgen Springer
  • 02/01/2019

Zu langatmig

ich schätze Jordan Peterson sehr und verfolge seine Inhalte auf Youtube - aber dies Hörbuch habe ich auch nach dreimaligen Anfangen nicht durchgehalten. Er sollte sich etwas kürzer fassen und weniger ausschweifend schildern. Schade für mich, denn das Thema interessiert mich...

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  • K
  • 27/01/2019

Jordan Petersons massive messiacomplex

Incoherent wordsalat by the worlds most pushed charlatan. Don't listen. Save your time, brain cells and soul.

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  • ug
  • 12/07/2018

Worst voice ever

Great content
Unbearable voice
Why did the editor not choose a professional speaker?
Otherwise good book

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