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Fall; or, Dodge in Hell

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A New York Times Notable Book 

The number one New York Times best-selling author of Seveneves, Anathem, Reamde, and Cryptonomicon returns with a wildly inventive and entertaining science fiction thriller - Paradise Lost by way of Phillip K. Dick - that unfolds in the near future, in parallel worlds.

In his youth, Richard “Dodge” Forthrast founded Corporation 9592, a gaming company that made him a multibillionaire. Now in his middle years, Dodge appreciates his comfortable, unencumbered life, managing his myriad business interests, and spending time with his beloved niece Zula and her young daughter, Sophia.   

One beautiful autumn day, while he undergoes a routine medical procedure, something goes irrevocably wrong. Dodge is pronounced brain dead and put on life support, leaving his stunned family and close friends with difficult decisions. Long ago, when a much younger Dodge drew up his will, he directed that his body be given to a cryonics company now owned by enigmatic tech entrepreneur Elmo Shepherd. Legally bound to follow the directive despite their misgivings, Dodge’s family has his brain scanned and its data structures uploaded and stored in the cloud, until it can eventually be revived. 

In the coming years, technology allows Dodge’s brain to be turned back on. It is an achievement that is nothing less than the disruption of death itself. An eternal afterlife - the Bitworld - is created, in which humans continue to exist as digital souls. 

But this brave new immortal world is not the Utopia it might first seem.... 

Fall; or, Dodge in Hell is pure, unadulterated fun: a grand drama of analog and digital, man and machine, angels and demons, gods and followers, the finite and the eternal. In this exhilarating epic, Neal Stephenson raises profound existential questions and touches on the revolutionary breakthroughs that are transforming our future. Combining the technological, philosophical, and spiritual in one grand myth, he delivers a mind-blowing speculative literary saga for the modern age.

©2019 Neal Stephenson (P)2019 Brilliance Publishing, Inc., all rights reserved

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  • Ron
  • 20/06/2019

This is TERRIBLE

Imagine your friend gets really stupendously high and starts thinking out loud about the potential parallels between the start of a VR world meant for uploaded copies of humans (where conveniently everyone loses their memory during the upload despite having their entire brain scanned and simulated, but overlook that, he's high.) and the creation myths in our own world. Now imagine he talks about it for 31 interminable hours. Sound awful? Wait, there's more. Characters in the VR world don't remember contractions, or the names of things, so the talk like babies for 20 of those 31 hours about painfully obvious things and to ham-fistedly deliver morality lessons. This is not just the worst Neil Stephenson book I've listened to, it might be the worst period. As one of the terrible characters in this book would put it: "The word stories from the talking box brought no pleasure and thus I turned away from them and called them bad."

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  • Barry McWilliams
  • 24/06/2019

Tedious & Mannered 2nd Half

Some great ideas that get buried in overly mannered, stilted language. I found the entire second half of the book to be nearly unbearable, listening to faux “olde tyme” language that stripped every character of personality. I grok that this is a parable, but it’s excruciating. I remain a huge Stephenson fan, and will surely buy his next book, but this one is a huge disappointment.

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  • Missy Slim
  • 23/06/2019

Least Favorite Audio Book of All Time

Agree with other reviewers, first 3rd was okay. At the point where Dodge is reintroduced, the book hits a brick wall. Then, for many many many hours, it repeatedly hits that brick wall. There are very few audio books I've truly hated as much as this one - now added to the top of my list of Least Favorites.

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  • Corey
  • 20/06/2019

This is the worst book that has ever been written

I never leave reviews but I have seen too many positive ones here and I can not imagine a single person enjoying this novel. I love Stephenson. I loved Seveneves. I loved Snow Crash. This book is no Snow Crash. The plot, such as it is, involves the creation of simu... you know what? It doesn’t matter. This is the worst book I’ve ever read. Half of it takes place in the near future, half of it takes place in a simulation that attempts to deconstruct the Bible but with less story and the most ham-fisted writing you can imagine. Neither half has any novel ideas or novel takes on existing ideas. Neither half has characters worth caring about. Neither half is particularly well written. Both halves are equally ponderous and pointless. I am not kidding here, you may find yourself engaged by the first seven hours or so, but rest assured that all of those characters will disappear and most of the action will take place out of the narrative and be recounted later (or not). Maybe you think you’ll be interested in the fantasy part of the novel? You won’t be. It’s like a knockoff of a knockoff of a Piers Anthony book that got translated from English to Korean to German then back to English. The main characters have names like Egdod (Dodge spelled backwards GET IT?) and Thingor (he makes things GET IT?) I can’t believe anyone gave this garbage five stars. I’m actually angry at the people who did because they are so comically, objectively wrong. It is not a matter of opinion this book is just bad. At no point during the literal work week that I spent listening to this did it approach anything resembling a coherent story. I award it no points, may the lord have mercy on its soul.

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  • Matthew
  • 21/06/2019

No editor was allowed a say in this....

I do not recommend this book. I’d love to, oh so much how I would love to, but I can’t. Stephenson is an all-time favorite author of mine, so I give him a lot of leeway, and it’s probably why I got to the halfway point in this book instead of quitting earlier. But no matter how hard I tried, I just couldn’t bring myself to finish this book. The reason? I’m fairly sure that no editor got any say in this. First of all there is no cohesive story or plot. Second, the passages just go on and on with no real purpose and without adding anything. Third, there is a time skip that is similar to if in Seveneves it went from the moon exploding on the first page to Part 3 with no explanation of how or why. So out of nowhere there is this whole new scenario that is completely different from the preceding two parts, but then it is dropped and never comes into play! It felt like it existed only so Stephenson could be preachy about his views, and I agree with those views and I thought it was too preachy! So no, once again, I cannot recommend this book. The characters at their best are nothing but one dimensional cutouts, the worlds could be interesting, but they are hardly explored beyond surface level or just retelling 3rd grade history or theology. And everything just drags on and on repetitiously without purpose or pay off like his previous books would have. I mean dangit, I was REALLY looking forward to this book.

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  • Bauart
  • 20/06/2019

What Did I Just Listen To?

The premise of "Fall" is great. It's advertised as a fascinating near-future science-fiction novel by an established well-known author (Stephenson) about brain-scanning and life after death... Cool! I was all in! So much potential! What was NOT mentioned in the book's blurb was that the brain-scanning and rebooting of a human after their death is just a setup for a quasi-religious teen-gamer story about magic fairy-tale creatures akin to trolls, gremlins, angels, and demons. Half or more of the book is just a silly quest to find a giant metal key to open a gateway for the return of "Egdod" (Dodge spelled backwards.... get it?), and a BIG chunk of that is a re-imagined Adam and Eve story (which comes to a clumsy and fuzzy conclusion). The biggest disappointment of "Fall" is that when you're rebooted up after death, you can no longer recall who you are. Your old "meat-space" identity is (mostly) gone. So as the reader you're left confused as to why Stephenson even bothered with each characters LONG back-story? If I arrive in a new world after death thinking I'm a magical flying demigod, what is the point going into extreme painful detail about who I used to be? The characters didn't even know who they were, so I as a reader really had zero reason to care who they just became. There are so many dead-ends and pointless side stories in this epic it becomes frustrating trying to keep up, and ultimately meaningless since most of it is needless extrapolation.

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  • Brenda
  • 16/06/2019

Two many disconnected themes and threads

Problematic all around: - There was zero need to re-use characters from Reamde into this - Abandoned early theme of fake news and personalized feeds - no need to even have it - There was no purpose for the conflict between the D and L given both could have independent worlds - No real concern that virtually nobody who went into simulation land to live forever had any real connection to their former selves, thus were just as good as dead anyway - Yeah... it went downhill from there

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  • Adam Mince
  • 16/06/2019

Nothing At Stake

This story has no momentum. Heavy on concept, very light on plot, nil on character development. This story's predecessor, Reamde, was a page turning plot-fueled juggernaut full of fun characters, given beautiful voice by the same Malcolm H. Fall's cast is much the same as Reamde's but these once familiar and likeable characters feel more like fence posts than people, now. If this novel were a photograph its compelling subject would be off-center and partially cropped out of frame. You'll find good ideas and beautiful prose that you want more of, but you'll be left hungry and buried beneath the superfluous stuff that comprises first sixty percent of the book or so. The reason the superfluous stuff feels the way it does is because the story's premise is anchored in a future time, and extends into a much later and more alien future time. It comes across as a huge amount of speculation about the coupling of future tech and future society and, while the speculation is sharply imaginitive and compelling, it just can't drive a novel forward on its own. The pacing of the story is awkward too, shifting from hard exposition into a much more poetic and metaphysical form of telling, roughly halfway through. Like a plain turkey sandwich with sweet PB&J in the middle instead of more processed meat, this novel could have benefitted greatly from an earlier decision about what kind of book it was really supposed to be. If you haven't read Reamde yet, maybe you'll like this title? Maybe. It makes me wish that Audible allowed returns or exchanges in warranted cases, though.

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  • james
  • 04/07/2019

3.80 stars......a bit disappointed

While this novel isn’t marketed as such, it is a sequel to Reamde, which I didn’t love but liked enough to try this one. Twelve hours into this novel, I would have said this was a much better audiobook than Reamde. Then, it started to lose steam and slowly petered out. By the end, I wasn’t interested in the outcome. Some of the interesting storylines were abandoned, and there was a lot of filler. Still, I stuck with it til the bitter end. Overall rating: 3.80 stars.

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  • mrevolved
  • 16/06/2019

Glad it’s over

First third was interesting and presented some challenging concepts about consciousness. After the first third the storyline got silly and difficult to follow.

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 13/07/2019

not as good

not his best work, slow to start, and longwinded in later parts, reamde I hardly could put aside, with this one I often phased out while listening and had to retrace, only to find that nothing important had happened

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 31/10/2019

ending sucks

Neal is damn lazy not to have finished with a better conclusion. Makes me feel sorry for Zula who got left behind. I hate this. Still a decent story I guess.

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  • wilwo
  • 03/09/2019

zielloser Fantasysalat

Wozu die kritischen Rezensionen mit 4-5 Sternen? Das Thema ist interessiert und absolut verfehlt! Der Teil, der sich wenigstens im Ansatz mit dem "Leben" bzw. Digitalisierung nach dem Tod befasst, macht höchstens ein Drittel des Buches aus. Der Rest ist eine chaotisch zusammengestoppelte Sammlung von... Ja, was eigentlich? Ich habe es nicht bis zum Ende geschafft. Unvorstellbar, das dieser Wust noch irgendeine Art roten Fadens oder Sinn bekommt.

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  • Manni
  • 31/08/2019

Neal Stephenson hat sein Mojo verloren

Neal Stephenson scheint es nicht mehr zu schaffen, einen spannenden, ideenreichen, humorvollen und fesselnden Abenteuerroman mit grandios cleveren Ideen zu schreiben. Cryptonomicon, die Quicksilver-Triologie und Reamde haben mich auch beim dritten Lesen noch gebannt, Fall; or, Dodge in Hell hatte einige clevere Ideen und starke Momente, aber insbesondere die Geschichte in der virtuellen Welt waren zäh, verwirrend und nur mäßig spannend. Schade.

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  • Tilman Guenther
  • 08/06/2019

It's turtles all the way down...

A satisfying conclusion (?) to the wide arch of Stephenson's universe including books such as Cryptonomicon and Reamde.

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  • Armin
  • 11/05/2020

Long.

Finally, finished it after months. Started off as a very interesting sci-fi stiry extending from now into the future but got totally tangled in virtual fantasy. Definitely had captivating moments or I wouldn't have finished it, but looking back at the story it feels like a short story stretched into hours on end.

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  • Bella
  • 21/04/2020

good start and story idea

I found myself completely lost and confused at times. like I was hearing different books. some section's still dont make any sense. mostly the Americastan weird religious part. not even sure how I finished it.

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  • Neulichedl Frank
  • 03/04/2020

Tolle Prämisse, aber ab der Hälfte zieht es sich

Die zweite Hälfte bringt keine neue Charakterentwicklung und es ist eine langgezogene Schlacht gut gegen Böse im Kleid eines mittelmäßigen Rollenspiels, samt einer sehr linearen Quest.

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  • Tim Yevgrashyn
  • 10/12/2019

Great Sci-Fi with too long story line

I was in love with first Neal Stephenson books. Cyberpunk with a good blend of true scientific based fiction and a good story line made him outstanding. This and few recent books (Seveneves, f.e.) are tend to be bigger and longer. And this makes them less enjoy and more boring stuff. Probably publisher pays per thousand words and this drives Neal and other popular authors to have a long pieces just to take space and not developing the story. Really, some of the first Stephenson's books are 18 hours narrative and this one is 30+ (!). Despite being upset with the long story line, still can't enjoy more of a vision for the possible future and details to draw it. Audiobook narrator and production are excellent and deserve extra Kudos for keeping the same passion and engaging through the whole long story.

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  • Vahap Canbay
  • 18/10/2019

Unbelievable storytelling

This book is truly a masterpiece of our time. It projects thoughts of our future which seem to be sci-fi.